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Scope on a Side Hammer

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#1 ·
Does anyone on here or have you seen a scope on a side lock muzzleloader?
 
#4 ·
I've seen it done, with a rearward mount, too, BUT the guy had to bend the hammer over so it wouldn't hit the scope. I thought it looked "out of place" but my eyes were better then, too.................. I probably wouldn't point and laugh like I did then :) .
 
#5 ·
[rquote=2069957&tid=143784&author=Possumjoe]Does anyone on here or have you seen a scope on a side lock muzzleloader?[/rquote]

:rules: Man talk about SACRILEGE!!!

:D The Big Grin would just get Inline.
 
#6 ·
Excuse me if I offend anyone, but some may have a reason to mount a scope on a vintage gun, but since I'm building a flinter myself, I don't see why one would do so, and take away the hunting experience that hunting with that era of a gun brings. Kinda out of text if you ask me. But that's just my opinion.
 
#7 ·
It's been done since the early 60's with all manner of modern bases and scopes....and looks like an abortion. If I were so inclined to do that, which is wholly unlikely, it would be on a late percussion rifle with a period correct, long brass scope with period correct, externally adjustable mounts. I have a picture in a book somewhere of a guy in the 1870's with a scope similar to that mounted on what appears to be either a Tyron or perhaps a Henry. Personally, with any of my rifles, it isn't going to happen.
 
#8 ·
Built one years ago for a customer, before in-line muzzleloaders existed.
Made it out of billit aluminum, clamped on the octagon barrel with two screws.

I personally thought it was ugly, but he was happy.
 
#10 ·
Period scopes and bases are available. Dixie, Track of the Wolf, maybe Navy Arms if they still exist, I believe it's Dillons in PA and a place in West Virginia....doggone it I can't recall their name...
 
#11 ·
Guys I know it sounds bad but I just cant see the back sight anymore, I got 2 inlines with scopes on them but they just dont give me that same feeling I get when I'm hunting with one of my sidelocks, I know it would be ugly but other than moving the back sight up the barrel closer to the front sight I dont have many options to choose from, peeps maybe I dont know, I have an old TC Rene with a single trigger that I would use for this, I tride one of those you clamp on the barrel but the scope was offset to the left to much for me and did not feel right.
 
#13 ·
There are available rings/mounts with external adjustments for the period scopes that fit into the dovetails where the front and rear sights are. It also doesn't take much to file in another dovetail to move the rear sight forward. A blank can be made to fit the former dovetail for the rear sight.

An aperature sight is definitely another option, a very good option. I believe Lyman makes one for real muzzleloaders that fits on the tang. Also, Track of the Wolf has available an aperature rear sight that will replace your existing rear sight. Tap out the old rear sight and tap in the new one, sight in and game on.

Or, a very economical option, use a leather punch and punch a 1/8 in. hole in a piece of black electrical tape and place it in the optimum location on your eyeglasses. It can be trimmed so small it's unobtrusive for normal wear and REALLY sharpens up the rear and front sight for older eyes......like mine! I went through this very same dilemma not too many years ago and I wasn't about to scope a flinter....or a persuckshun rifle
 
#14 ·
Buffler runners didn't have any problems using them and some of them were up to 20X with a really small FOV...and the few guys I know who use them for hunting don't have any problems either. And there are others than the Malcolm available if you're willing to look and pay the price.

Ever use one?
 
#15 ·
Last time I had any interest in a PC scope was several years ago...in the mid-late 90's...when I was looking for something for one of my Sharps rifles. If memory serves me correctly there was two or three available from European manufacturers. I'm sorry I don't remember their names but do recall they were rather high dollar....which may explain why I don't recall the name...from choking and tears. I'll see if I can find them again.
 
#16 ·
[rquote=2070155&tid=143784&author=sharps4590]It's been done since the early 60's with all manner of modern bases and scopes....and looks like an abortion. If I were so inclined to do that, which is wholly unlikely, it would be on a late percussion rifle with a period correct, long brass scope with period correct, externally adjustable mounts. I have a picture in a book somewhere of a guy in the 1870's with a scope similar to that mounted on what appears to be either a Tyron or perhaps a Henry. Personally, with any of my rifles, it isn't going to happen.[/rquote]Dern Sharps you hurt my little feelers.LOL Wish I had your knowledge 3-4 years ago.I quit shooting a centerfire 25 yrs. ago.I have,I think they called it immacular degeneration,everything should be a blur in 20yrs.
 
#17 ·
Macular degeneration....man Alis, that's tough. Aren't there some wonder drugs available for that?

I didn't mean to "hurt yer little feelers"....lol! You have my sincere apology.
 
#18 ·
That is what I said,macular degeneration.LOL No apologies necessary.
Possum Joe-Try some of these other options before optical scopes. I do have barrels for both rifles with open sights that I take to Colorado. I might get a couple more barrels and experiment with them.
 
#20 ·
[rquote=2074170&tid=143784&author=Possumjoe]I think I'll just put a lazer sight under the ram rod and call it good, hehe.
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A halographic site would be cool, and short.
Make a mount that goes in the rear sites dovetail.

Old school + cool.:thinking:
 
#21 ·
if ya really want to offend the traditionalists put that scope on a set off see-thru's:D:D