Two years gun season open after rut slowing down should be good for age class.

 

Love the start date for rifle, and getting 2 full weeks in November for archery. Have also enjoyed the extra cwd days with a rifle, even though i have yet to kill a deer then. I just like being able to have extra time with my rifle if I need it. 👍🏻

 

I like it ! With my work schedule, opportunities to rifle hunt without burning vacation days are fantastic

 

good thing is I do not have to butcher the deer where I shoot it now.

plus call the commissioners and give them you opinion

Recommendations for changes to firearms antlerless permit numbers, CWD mandatory sampling, conservation area regulations, managed hunts, and other proposals will be submitted to the Commission for consideration this spring.

 

40+ days of guns pressure, keep up the great work MDC!

 

I agree ! It’s awesome

 

WHERE ARE ALL THE DEER in MISSOURI?
Missouri Deer Hunters share this with your neighbors if you don’t share anything else.
Listen to this I been preaching this and Daniel Schmidt say’s it way better than I tried to explain it’s over a year old now.
Missouri – Early Antlerless Season, CWD Season and Late Antlerless season. Has it finally caught up with Missouri?
Ask yourself 1 question –
How many doe tags have filled in your square mile? 1, 10, 20, 30, or 40?
Remember not all square miles in the state of Missouri are equal on habitat or deer density.
Remember the average landowner in Missouri has 200 to 250 acres in Missouri.
While you listen remember this - Lonnie Hansen (Missouri's Deer Biologist for many years) once said at a public meeting that just because MDC had a season didn't mean you (we/hunters) needed to participate in it. Couple that with to maintain 25-Deer per sq mile (640-acres) you could only loose 4-Does by ANY means - hunting, disease, predation, etc. plus the fact that only 4 out of 10-fawns will reach 18-months of age.
#86: WHERE ARE ALL THE DEER? | Deer Talk Now Podcast - Nov 30, 2023
https://youtu.be/nwD4W79ntTY?si=0GI0DLAxsgboL0A4
10, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, 200 Acres let's just say he have 200 Acres that's like you know a less than a third of a square mile a third so if the if the population's 35 deer per square mile half for males half for females 17 does of those 10 or 12 of them are mature adults I should say that's not a lot of deer and I have six do tags in my pocket.
I'm not killing that many so how many deer should you kill depends if you have a small property and you're not seeing deer if you're hunting 40 acres and you're not seeing deer I'm going to say maybe one which do should I.
Well let's just put it out there what's the ballpark 75 or 100 landowners on your 3,000 Acres that's surrounding your tree stand and every one of those guys or gals has a four or six do tags do you know where I'm coming from here.
So let's just say there's 75 okay those 3,000 Acres there's all broken up into 40-acre Parcels there's 75 different land owners does every one of those 40s only have one guy hunting on it uh-uh you know that's not the case there's a lot of them that have probably have four or six or more people gun season whole family's coming up Thanksgiving we're going to go do a deer Drive so let me just try to throw a number out there.
We got 75 landowners I hope you guys are staying with me because I find this fascinating 75 landowners let's just say on average there's.
I'm going to be very light let's just say there's two hunters for every one of those 4 AC partials that's 150 people each one of them got let's just say got three Doe tags that's 450 tags are they going to kill 450 Doe's no but now you know why you're not seeing deer that's why you are if you're if you're not seeing deer now you know why if you're in a place that has unlimited doe hunting they might not be killing 450 but they're certainly not killing 40 they might be killing a hundred so if they're killing a hundred that subtraction's adding up!!!

 

#armchairquarterbacking

 

As soon as I read “ remember, the average in landowner in Missouri has 200-250 acres in Missouri “ I laughed out loud and quit reading

 

I would just like to know who is responsible for the incredible number of deer tracks on my place . If it's not the deer who is it 🤔

 

I would tell you my place is the same way but dont want MDC knowing. Obvious that might not be the normal.

 

I would just like to know who is responsible for the incredible number of deer tracks on my place . If it's not the deer who is it 🤔

 

Is 31 what they saw or 31 killed ?

 

Killed

 

 

Hard for me to say one way or the other if deer numbers are down around me. I know we had more mature bucks showing up on cams until late Oct. My neighbors experienced the same.
I do believe we saw fewer does this year.
I got a group of 8 does on cam couple days ago.
A few smaller bucks starting to show up. I still think deer around me are scattered in the timber.
There is a large hay field about 4 miles from me that is loaded with deer every evening. I have seen up to 25- 30 deer at a time.
For me it doesn't really matter I am done for this year. Good thing is should have some really nice bucks around me next year.

 

I don't know if numbers are high, low or just right around the state. But I do trust guys like Thwackaddiict who has been having low numbers in his area for seemingly a few years at least and would have to believe there are certainly other areas experiencing the same and him? Still trying to figure out when the MO deer population jumped to 1.7 million

 

up there in the area where Thwackaddict lives, the wife is from that area, late 1990's early 2000's we would see turkey's all over. Then it seemed everytime we would go up more and more hedgerows, wood thickets and even creeks would disapear and we were not seeing turkeys. Rolling hills of pastures disc'd up and terraced and no habitat for the turkeys let alone deer. The deer crossing warning signs where a creek once crossed the road now just indacating that thre is a bridge coming up even thogh there are no trees in sight.

there was a creek that started in the hills south of Fairfax, and went north for 5 miles to the Tarkio river. It is now a ditch with grass in it, not a tree anywhere. Some of that sold for around 2000 for $4,500 an acre, which was high at the time. Maybe MDC did some cost sharing with the landowner to remove wildlife habitat. j/k

Yesterday I was just north of were I live, there was a large wood lot with a 1/2 mile hedge row and now there is a large pile of brush and except some trees aroud a few houseI can see for 4-5 miles with out a tree in sight.

 

Been turkey hunting 39 years. 30 years at my farm in NE MO. First 9 in Iron Co and seen population swings. Hands down lowest population I have seen over last five years.

 

Honestly, I think they moved alt season to where it is to accommodate hunters who have time off over holidays. Participation being the key. 👍🏻

 

that would be using their noggin, but it may also have to do with trying to allow the deer to settle in and avoid basically 35 straight days of gun pressure. WHo knows.

 

Ouch ,,,thats gonna cut

 

Spring turkey season opening date totally SUCKS azz. Too damn late in southern MO.

 

Ain’t No Turkeys Or Big Buck Deers In Southern MO…. Gezzzzzz How many times I got to say it!

BTW…. We don’t get any of the wet stuff/rain either!

 

With all these rules breakers in the deer woods they need to eliminate aprs. Obviously deer hunters can't be trusted to not shoot 6pnt <