[20']

Oh, but I do.... you've just convinced yourself that you need to have lower standards down there.

Nah, in 25 years of hunting there we never killed a 150, EVER! The neighbors liked 2 that would exceed 150 in those 25 years! That is a lot of high bracing or a lot or little of something!

I agree that 50% of bucks have the potential to get to 150, but not in the Ozarks

 

[Triple Creek Hunter]

It would be very consistent across Missouri. The "we just can't grow em like that here" thing is an old wives tale.

I call BS but that's ok if you have yourself convinced that's all that matters.

 

[Triple Creek Hunter]

Nah, in 25 years of hunting there we never killed a 150, EVER! The neighbors liked 2 that would exceed 150 in those 25 years! That is a lot of high bracing or a lot or little of something!

I agree that 50% of bucks have the potential to get to 150, but not in the Ozarks

I have 15 years on my Ozarks property without a lot of buck kills on my place and around me. Only one buck taken over 150. A guy did take one this year that will probably break 150. In Putnam County there were a lot of 150+ deer taken in my 30 yrs of owning that property. There is a difference my friend

 

[rat]

Yes, it is. You would have to let your bucks age to 2 and 3 years and then shoot the smallest ones of that cohort.

Are you joke-blind?

 

[thwackaddict]

Nah, in 25 years of hunting there we never killed a 150, EVER! The neighbors liked 2 that would exceed 150 in those 25 years! That is a lot of high bracing or a lot or little of something!

I agree that 50% of bucks have the potential to get to 150, but not in the Ozarks

Probably just missing high quality “antler dirt”.

 

[20']

Probably just missing high quality “antler dirt”.

we did have pictures on 1 that would have easily cleared 150, not bad, 1 pic in 25 years.

 

[Hawk2]

I call BS but that's ok if you have yourself convinced that's all that matters.

Its called science.

 

[Hawk2]

Are you joke-blind?

No

 

[Hawk2]

I have 15 years on my Ozarks property without a lot of buck kills on my place and around me. Only one buck taken over 150. A guy did take one this year that will probably break 150. In Putnam County there were a lot of 150+ deer taken in my 30 yrs of owning that property. There is a difference my friend

I heard all of these EXACT same things in NWMO for decades until APRs came around. Then, MAGICALLY, our genetics changed, the soils changed, and we started killing big older bucks with large antlers consistently.... It had to be those last 2 that made the difference because despite all that farmground and food we just couldnt grow em like that here......

 

[Triple Creek Hunter]

The soils changed? Hmm, not sure how that came a about. I guess microfiber nature.

 

[Triple Creek Hunter]

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The soils changed? Hmm, not sure how that came a about. I guess microfiber nature.

Miracle of nature

 

[421sd]

Why don’t you hunt/own/lease land in the Ozarks Hawk? Much prettier down here, and more gratifying to hunt overall.

Look, you know this isn’t practical for the vast majority of hunters - maybe close to 98-99% of us. And it isn’t fair to ask a lot of hunters to hunt in such a manner (youth, new/inexperienced, disabled, time constrained, etc).

All I can do as a hunter who doesn’t own his own hunting ground, is pass what I don’t want to shoot, and shoot what I want when the opportunity comes.

 

[rat]

The soils changed? Hmm, not sure how that came a about. I guess microfiber nature.

Grasping… I haven’t read through but he must have encountered enough pushback on this to resort to telling us that we’ve gone to a sandy clay to a silt loam in just a few short years (I would also accept decades here).

 

[Hawk2]

Why don’t you hunt/own/lease land in the Ozarks Hawk? Much prettier down here, and more gratifying to hunt overall.

Look, you know this isn’t practical for the vast majority of hunters - maybe close to 98-99% of us. And it isn’t fair to ask a lot of hunters to hunt in such a manner (youth, new/inexperienced, disabled, time constrained, etc).

All I can do as a hunter who doesn’t own his own hunting ground, is pass what I don’t want to shoot, and shoot what I want when the opportunity comes.

Or, you can make an OBR which would save a ton of these bucks and also allow the people you mentioned to shoot what they want.

 

[Hawk2]

The soils changed? Hmm, not sure how that came a about. I guess microfiber nature.

Grasping… I haven’t read through but he must have encountered enough pushback on this to resort to telling us that we’ve gone to a sandy clay to a silt loam in just a few short years (I would also accept decades here).

Are you both joke-blind??

 

[Hawk2]

Why don’t you hunt/own/lease land in the Ozarks Hawk? Much prettier down here, and more gratifying to hunt overall.

Look, you know this isn’t practical for the vast majority of hunters - maybe close to 98-99% of us. And it isn’t fair to ask a lot of hunters to hunt in such a manner (youth, new/inexperienced, disabled, time constrained, etc).

All I can do as a hunter who doesn’t own his own hunting ground, is pass what I don’t want to shoot, and shoot what I want when the opportunity comes.

Also, I have no reason to own ground in the Ozarks unless its at the lake, and even then I HATE that drive for a weekend trip. All of our ground is in NWMO as well as my duck ground so I bought deer ground bordering our family farm. Itd be kind dumb to buy 4 hours away from the main area...

 

[WBF]

The soils changed? Hmm, not sure how that came a about. I guess microfiber nature.

Especially when it takes at least 100 years to gain an inch of soil…..

I guess all of these Big Buck hunters going North to purchase/lease hunting properties have it all wrong….

I do agree that trigger control is a primary factor…. But if I had to put a 150 or better on the ground any given season I would be hunting my lease in Scotland, Knox or Lewis County Vs Texas County…

 

[rat]

Now he says the aging soils thing was a joke evidently.

 

[WBF]

Now he says the aging soils thing was a joke evidently.

The actual “JoKe” began on post #1…. then steadily skidded downward from there….
But beggars can’t be choosers I guess… The political forums were running their course… 😂

BTW: Is WildlifeInvestments A Hedge Fund? 😂

 

[cowboy]

I think there is pretty much a concensus that ozark fully mature bucks wont average 150. For the same reason them thar hills wont support as high of deer densities .