Whats in a name

Discussion in 'Politics ......... (OPT IN)' started by henry, May 29, 2009.

  1. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    As this past presidential election unfolded and the republican and democratic canidates where choosen,,many folks felt that alot hinged on a name. One of the canidates had a name that had been attached to others who had done almost unmentionable harm to others. It (the name) had been used by those who had terrorized and even out right killed innocent people for no other reason than they were just there.
    As the elction grew near many people felt that the person with this infamous name would be unelectable and that their party had made a grave error in judgment by allowing this ill-named canidate to lead their parties ticket. It was to late though and only time would tell if their fears would be founded in fact.

    When the 2008 presidential election results came in the truth was revealed,,,the voters had spoken load and clear and the ill named politician's fate was revealed. The voters had not elected him.

    I mean after all who could vote for an official with a name like John. This named had been used as a handle by the likes of John Hinkley and John Birch not to mention John wesley Hardin who was so mean he once shot a man for snoring.

    (Disclaimer) This is trivial drivle that is meaningless,,,much like alot of the complaints that are posted by many obama haters. If there is a serious issue to be discussed bring it forth. But please don't expect the nonsense to be considered political debate. Honest concerns and reasonable complaints don't include childish racial slurs and classroom insults.

    :cheers::cheers:
     
  2. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri

  3. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    [rquote=1279879&tid=89554&author=callaojoe]:shrug:[/rquote]

    After reading some of the silly racial crap that was posted this week,,,I thought I would try to incourage political talk on the political forum instead of cartoons and insults. The present administration is doing enough things to complain and discuss about without the racial slurs (.02). Things like proposing the cap and trade. things like putting the fox in charge of the hen house like he has with Geitner and Paulson and summers. To big to fail but they are forcing them to get bigger:shrug: Things like that instead of skin color and slamming the community organizer thing when the man is a consitutional law lawyer and a proffesser in said law.

    :cheers::cheers:
     
  4. Rebel2

    Rebel2 Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2003
    Ozark, MO
  5. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri
    BTW.... As someone that believes Abortion is wrong for many reasons, some Religious, some social. And as a person that does not want to see what I perceive as my 2nd amendment rights restricted any further by legislation that may be put forward by Obama, Pelosi, or any other politician, regardless of party... I reserve my right to dislike said politicians, no matter what there name is.....

    It kills me when I see for instance, some one put on their facebook page, that they are pro-life and a "friend" of Obama.... I do not see how a person can be both. Same would have to be said for a belief in 2nd amendment rights I reckon.....

    :wave:
     
  6. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri
    BTW.... I musta missed the silly racial crap....

    Personally, I have zero tolerance for it.

    I my opinion, there are idiots in all races of human beings, and I am not a racist if the person I do not like, happens to be of a different race, and also happens to be, in my opinion an idiot.

    For instance, In my opinion.... Pelosi happens to be an idiot, and I really don't care what "race" she is...
     
  7. Rebel2

    Rebel2 Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2003
    Ozark, MO
    reb's avatar for 49% of a day is what he is referring to...
     
  8. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri
    [rquote=1279911&tid=89554&author=Rebel]reb's avatar for 49% of a day is what he is referring to...[/rquote]

    The Smurf? You gotta thing against blue vertically challenged individuals? Or did I miss an avatar somewhere along the way.
     
  9. Rebel2

    Rebel2 Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2003
    Ozark, MO
    [rquote=1279913&tid=89554&author=callaojoe][rquote=1279911&tid=89554&author=Rebel]reb's avatar for 49% of a day is what he is referring to...[/rquote]

    The Smurf? You gotta thing against blue vertically challenged individuals? Or did I miss an avatar somewhere along the way.[/rquote]

    Not that one... You missed the other one...

    It's been, well, retired you could say.. :peepwall:
     
  10. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri
    [rquote=1279915&tid=89554&author=Rebel][rquote=1279913&tid=89554&author=callaojoe][rquote=1279911&tid=89554&author=Rebel]reb's avatar for 49% of a day is what he is referring to...[/rquote]

    The Smurf? You gotta thing against blue vertically challenged individuals? Or did I miss an avatar somewhere along the way.[/rquote]

    Not that one... You missed the other one...

    It's been, well, retired you could say.. :peepwall:[/rquote]

    It's entirely possible.... It just din't leave an impression in my brain, and I just plumb fergot.....:confused:
     
  11. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    [rquote=1279897&tid=89554&author=callaojoe]BTW.... As someone that believes Abortion is wrong for many reasons, some Religious, some social. And as a person that does not want to see what I perceive as my 2nd amendment rights restricted any further by legislation that may be put forward by Obama, Pelosi, or any other politician, regardless of party... I reserve my right to dislike said politicians, no matter what there name is.....

    It kills me when I see for instance, some one put on their facebook page, that they are pro-life and a "friend" of Obama.... I do not see how a person can be both. Same would have to be said for a belief in 2nd amendment rights I reckon.....

    :wave:[/rquote]

    I have never believed that Obama would try and take our guns. I have always said that with a background in Illinois politics he probably would like to,,but he is a very good politician and is smart enough to know the political consequences of trying to do so. He is a very well versed political historian as well and knows the power of the gun owners.

    The abortion button isn't nearly as big and doesn't carry nearly the wieght that gun ownership does. I myself am niether prolife or proabortion. Until the prolife movement publicly concedes a need for the use of abortion in cases of rape ,incest and legitimate medical dangers I can't support pro life organizations agenda of the total abolition of abortion.

    :cheers::cheers:
     
  12. 20 feet high

    20 feet high CROSSBOW HATER!

    Feb 19, 2009
    [rquote=1279893&tid=89554&author=henry][rquote=1279879&tid=89554&author=callaojoe]:shrug:[/rquote]

    After reading some of the silly racial crap that was posted this week,,,I thought I would try to incourage political talk on the political forum instead of cartoons and insults. The present administration is doing enough things to complain and discuss about without the racial slurs (.02). Things like proposing the cap and trade. things like putting the fox in charge of the hen house like he has with Geitner and Paulson and summers. To big to fail but they are forcing them to get bigger:shrug: Things like that instead of skin color and slamming the community organizer thing when the man is a consitutional law lawyer and a proffesser in said law.

    :cheers::cheers:[/rquote]

    big dog you are on the horse today, welcome back big dog!!!! const. lawyer my butt, he has no experience other than being the voted the most liberal senator EVER, that EVER!!! someone who thinks it is okay to crush and unborn or a botched abortion fetuses skull is not a person I would want running the country....unfortunately, since his is for that treatment of fetuses and the unborn rights it is too bad he made it through! And now to the community organizer point, well he is now organizing on big governmental organization to grow exponentially out of control and watch all our rights go right down the drain.

    We get pounded by just about ever media source how our thoughts are wrong and we repubs or people who think you should provide for oneself (not be given everything) are mean, insesitive bigots...:bs:I look for a place like this to vent!

    with a tool like obama running the world with no experience other than to take our hard earned money and punish wealthy hard working people and businesses...just wait and see what our children have to look forward to in the coming years. Socialism or worse.....like I said earlier I wish these moderators would govern our mainstream media.
     
  13. Rebel2

    Rebel2 Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2003
    Ozark, MO
    Well, it was dealing with the current president. An insect and the moon.
     
  14. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    I missed your avatar dealy too reb. I am refering to all of the racial stuff that came to lite in that thread and another of similar timing. Although had I seen the avatar,,it probably would have been included in my list of insults:hysterical::hysterical:

    :cheers::cheers:
     
  15. glennasher1

    glennasher1 Well-Known Member

    Sep 16, 2004
    Radcliff, KY
    Howzabout all those tax-dodging knotheads he's nominated for various posts??? (Yeah, Geithner, for one, among over a dozen others). Sotamayor is a blithering fool, too, MOST of the cases she officiated were overturned(60%) including the one in front of SCOTUS right now, the one with the Connecticut firefighters/reverse discrimination).
    Howzabout his Justice Department, just today, throwing out the case in Philly of voter intimidation, when three Black Panthers harassed and harried white and Hispanic voters on election day, and it was caught on camera, for all to see????
    Howzabout his giving TARP money to ACORN, who've been indicted for election fraud in a dozen states so far, with more to come, no doubt (MO being one of those states).

    Nationalizing the auto industry is obscene, not to mention the banking industry, which was on it's knees due to Clinton's Justice Department threatening the banks to make subprime loans or face charges of discrimination.......

    This could go on and on, but I have other things to do, I think it could fill up the Internet........
     
  16. Rebel2

    Rebel2 Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2003
    Ozark, MO
    [rquote=1279925&tid=89554&author=henry] I missed your avatar dealy too reb. I am refering to all of the racial stuff that came to lite in that thread and another of similar timing. Although had I seen the avatar,,it probably would have been included in my list of insults:hysterical::hysterical:

    :cheers::cheers:[/rquote]

    :)

    I just assumed partially referring my avatar... Guess I should have kept my mouth shut, as if that's possible.

    Reb is not racist, reb likes to have fun and stir the pot a bit.

    :)
     
  17. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri
    [rquote=1279919&tid=89554&author=henry]
    I have never believed that Obama would try and take our guns. I have always said that with a background in Illinois politics he probably would like to,,but he is a very good politician and is smart enough to know the political consequences of trying to do so. He is a very well versed political historian as well and knows the power of the gun owners. [/rquote]

    I am going to have to say, that I disagree with you, and that the election of Obama has given the likes of Pelosi, Ms. Clinton, and other "anti-gun" politicians more power to try to enact legislation that would restrict our gun rights.... I do not believe the Obama is going to openly try to push for much gun legislation, but I also do not believe that he will prevent others from pushing it forward.....
     
  18. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    [rquote=1279920&tid=89554&author=20 feet high][rquote=1279893&tid=89554&author=henry][rquote=1279879&tid=89554&author=callaojoe]:shrug:[/rquote]

    After reading some of the silly racial crap that was posted this week,,,I thought I would try to incourage political talk on the political forum instead of cartoons and insults. The present administration is doing enough things to complain and discuss about without the racial slurs (.02). Things like proposing the cap and trade. things like putting the fox in charge of the hen house like he has with Geitner and Paulson and summers. To big to fail but they are forcing them to get bigger:shrug: Things like that instead of skin color and slamming the community organizer thing when the man is a consitutional law lawyer and a proffesser in said law.

    :cheers::cheers:[/rquote]

    big dog you are on the horse today, welcome back big dog!!!! const. lawyer my butt, he has no experience other than being the voted the most liberal senator EVER, that EVER!!! someone who thinks it is okay to crush and unborn or a botched abortion fetuses skull is not a person I would want running the country....unfortunately, since his is for that treatment of fetuses and the unborn rights it is too bad he made it through! And now to the community organizer point, well he is now organizing on big governmental organization to grow exponentially out of control and watch all our rights go right down the drain.

    We get pounded by just about ever media source how our thoughts are wrong and we repubs or people who think you should provide for oneself (not be given everything) are mean, insesitive bigots...:bs:I look for a place like this to vent!

    with a tool like obama running the world with no experience other than to take our hard earned money and punish wealthy hard working people and businesses...just wait and see what our children have to look forward to in the coming years. Socialism or worse.....like I said earlier I wish these moderators would govern our mainstream media.[/rquote]

    You should at least occasionally try and find facts about what you are speaking. Obama is a constitutional lawyer and held a proffessorship at a small Chicago university.

    :cheers::cheers:
     
  19. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    [rquote=1279928&tid=89554&author=callaojoe][rquote=1279919&tid=89554&author=henry]
    I have never believed that Obama would try and take our guns. I have always said that with a background in Illinois politics he probably would like to,,but he is a very good politician and is smart enough to know the political consequences of trying to do so. He is a very well versed political historian as well and knows the power of the gun owners. [/rquote]

    I am going to have to say, that I disagree with you, and that the election of Obama has given the likes of Pelosi, Ms. Clinton, and other "anti-gun" politicians more power to try to enact legislation that would restrict our gun rights.... I do not believe the Obama is going to openly try to push for much gun legislation, but I also do not believe that he will prevent others from pushing it forward.....

    [/rquote]


    He already has once. There was an outcry from Holder along with Pelosi and others to reinstate the assault weapons ban because of the alledged problems in Mexico. Holder only opened his mouth one time and no longer wishes to comment on it. Obama in a public speech said that although there was debate about reinstating the ban he thought it was ploitically difficult to do so, and that they would fight the flow of arms to Mexico using laws that are presently on the books to do so.

    He is definately not pro gun,,but he is very smart. I feel that if he ever makes an attempt to further restrict gun ownership,,we will have plenty of warning because the movement will start at the supreme court not end there.

    :cheers::cheers: