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Public invited to share ideas about future management of Marais Temps Clair Conservation Area
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Dan Zarlenga
Sep 03, 2019
St. CHARLES, Mo.-The Missouri Department of Conservation (MDC) wants to know what Missourians think about its more than 1,000 conservation areas around the state. MDC is in the multi-year process of updating management plans for conservation areas and invites public comments. Marais Temps Clair Conservation Area in northern St. Charles County is among the areas under review.

MDC is inviting public comment regarding Marais Temps Clair to aid staff in developing a 25-year management plan for the 918-acrea conservation area. Interested persons or groups-including recreational users, neighboring landowners, conservation groups, elected officials and government agencies-are invited to view the proposed management plan at mdc.mo.gov/areaplans The plan includes a link for supplying comments and input.

The plan will remain available for public comment during the month of September. The public comment period for the Marais Temps Clair plan will close Sept. 30.

MDC manages wetland and bottomland natural communities on the area to balance fish, forest, and wildlife resources with public recreational use. Marais Temps Clair Conservation Area provides hunting, trapping, fishing, and wildlife viewing opportunities. There are 11 wetland pools with associated levees and one disabled-accessible waterfowl hunting blind for public use and enjoyment. To reach Marais Temps Clair, go north from St. Charles on Highway 94 to Route H. Follow Route H northeast to Island Road, and go north on Island Road to the area.
Conservation Area Management Plans focus on natural resource management and public use on conservation areas. The plans do not address regulations on hunting, fishing and other area uses, which are set by the Conservation Commission and enforced under the Wildlife Code of Missouri. MDC will consider all ideas received and will work to balance the issues and interests identified with the responsibility of managing areas for the present and future benefits to forest, fish, wildlife, and people.

Decisions on which ideas to incorporate into area plans and on how to best incorporate them will be based on the property's purpose, its physical and biological conditions and capabilities, the best roles of the property in its local, regional and state-wide context, and on the professional expertise of MDC staff.
MDC conservation areas cover almost one million public acres to restore and conserve forest, fish and wildlife resources, and provide opportunities for all citizens to use, enjoy and learn about these resources. Most Missourians are within a 30-minute drive of an MDC conservation area.
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MDC is currently seeking public input about future management of Marais Temps Clair Conservation Area in St. Charles County. Those interested in viewing and commenting on the area's 10-year management plan are invited to share their ideas at mdc.mo.gov/areaplans by September 30.
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Plant it full of corn:D
I told them to sell it
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How about having an actual management plan to start with? I don’t think winging it qualifies.
You can read the current active management plan they the link in post 3...
Most years they don't get the sunflowers in without getting a tractor stuck in the muck..Chris Adams used to try extremely hard to make it a quality hunt. He was an area manager with the hunter success in mind.
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Im sure they were flooded this spring ..............Management plan ,,, its right there ,,cut trees in the pool and levees ....what more do you want .. other that selling :)
Plant a freaking crop for chrissakes. It's not hard to figure out. They buy this spot in the middle of some of the most intense competition for ducks in the country and do nothing with it management wise. Might as well call Tony Vandemore and sell it to him so he can show them how to attract a duck. MTC, BK, CB are all perfect examples of what not to do in duck management.
Not a waterfowl hunter.
Used to put in for the January 1 - January 15 bow hunt every year. Would get drawn more often than not.
Couldn't scout after September ( didn't do much good for January hunt anyway)
Area closed to only duck hunters all fall unless drawn for managed hunt.
January hunt place was open to public use again, dog walkers, birdwatchers......
Pain in the arse.
One night had a nice 160ish 10 point at 12 yards. Was waiting for him to take a couple more steps so I could let the air out of him.
Just ad he was about to commit, a 4 wheeler came flying down the levee and spooked him. A trapper.
I was so mad. I drove to the little trailer by the barn and Chris was there. I started venting rather adamantly my displeasure.
If I would have killed that buck, I'd have had at least a half mile drag to the truck.
His reasoning for the trapper to be allowed the use of the 4 wheeler was, "You know, Bob, some of those beaver those guys catch weigh 40 pounds."
My response was, " How much do you think that fricking buck weighed?"
Quit applying for any managed hunts out there.
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You can read the current active management plan they the link in post 3...
Most years they don't get the sunflowers in without getting a tractor stuck in the muck..Chris Adams used to try extremely hard to make it a quality hunt. He was an area manager with the hunter success in mind.
Chis was a good dude, he use to hunt with us on the river years ago.
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Plant a freaking crop for chrissakes. It's not hard to figure out. They buy this spot in the middle of some of the most intense competition for ducks in the country and do nothing with it management wise. Might as well call Tony Vandemore and sell it to him so he can show them how to attract a duck. MTC, BK, CB are all perfect examples of what not to do in duck management.
hey Cash 50 read post #7..about MTC, although I cant disagree about the other duck parks

put your comments on the MDC comment page so they can read it.
The new part of BK had to be enrolled into WRP when bought I think so can't plant the whole place, but the percentage they can and where could definitely be better.
hey Cash 50 read post #7..about MTC, although I cant disagree about the other duck parks

put your comments on the MDC comment page so they can read it.
Yea I saw that. How are all the clubs getting crops in? Why is there so much muck? Can the place not be drained well?
it has terrible drainage, sets real lowholds rain water real well plus I dont think the MDC spends sufficient monies to make it a quality place.. I think Chris was the last full time employee there, now they just send out a crew from Leach to cover their needs.
Not a waterfowl hunter.
Used to put in for the January 1 - January 15 bow hunt every year. Would get drawn more often than not.
Couldn't scout after September ( didn't do much good for January hunt anyway)
Area closed to only duck hunters all fall unless drawn for managed hunt.
January hunt place was open to public use again, dog walkers, birdwatchers......
Pain in the arse.
One night had a nice 160ish 10 point at 12 yards. Was waiting for him to take a couple more steps so I could let the air out of him.
Just ad he was about to commit, a 4 wheeler came flying down the levee and spooked him. A trapper.
I was so mad. I drove to the little trailer by the barn and Chris was there. I started venting rather adamantly my displeasure.
If I would have killed that buck, I'd have had at least a half mile drag to the truck.
His reasoning for the trapper to be allowed the use of the 4 wheeler was, "You know, Bob, some of those beaver those guys catch weigh 40 pounds."
My response was, " How much do you think that fricking buck weighed?"
Quit applying for any managed hunts out there.
Wingmaster, sorry for your problems there.. any public place especially near a large town will be a multi use area.. the trappers work hard to keep the levee systems working in all the leveed wildlife areas.
Marais Temps Clair or fair weather marsh is all that remains of a large ox-bow lake and marsh that extended for miles through this area. This conservation area is over 900 acres in size with some 500 acres being managed for wetlands, marsh and shallow pools. There are no trails at Marais Temps Clair but there are very good service roads one can walk and bird. Walking and birding in wetland habitat can be very productive especially in the spring when you may hear or see rails, bittern, and shorebirds which fly along this ancient migratory route each season. There is a small wooded area that surrounds the parking area and between the two habitats it can be a very productive day. Look and listen for warbles and flycatchers. Keep a sharp eye out for raptors that are frequently seen flying about, including Osprey.

Because of its significance Marais Temps Clair has been designated an “Important Bird Area” by the National Audubon Society. Its sits just a few miles southeast of the confluence of the Illinois and Mississippi River and is nestled between the Mississippi and Missouri River. Its proximity to these traditional flyways makes it a stop-over for most species of waterfowl including ducks, geese, swan, grebes and scoter. Heron can be seen in the area including the Yellow-crowned and Black-crowned Night-Herons as well as Green and Great Blue Herons. Many species of sparrow are in the area in both winter and summer. In fact, on any given day just about any species of bird may be seen; so be sharp and if you have a scope please bring it for marsh birds can be very secretive.
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it has terrible drainage, sets real lowholds rain water real well plus I dont think the MDC spends sufficient monies to make it a quality place.. I think Chris was the last full time employee there, now they just send out a crew from Leach to cover their needs.
I still can't say for certain, but it sounds like a halfhearted effort. Gotta have a way to control water levels if you are managing for ducks. Get the grade, set up water control structure, plant crops, rotate crops, and take advantage of moist soil. Then, almost magically, you have prime duck habitat. Can't plant a crop if you can't dry out your duck hole.
How many dump truck loads you think will raise the level of the pools ?
If they could drain that mississippi or missouri rivers ,you could plant a lot of corn ....Kids smh
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