i was sitting there at work eating lunch and had my calculator handy.i came up with some interesting numbers.here goes. V = velocity in fps. R = rate of twist RPM = revolutions per minute V x 12 -------- = RPM R so lets take our doggin loads for example.they are running right at 3400 fps. plus or minus about 20 fps, the twist of my savage is 1 in 9. so take the velocity and multiply it by 12 to convert it into inches per second which comes to 40,800.then divide that by R which is the rate of twist, it is a one in nine twist, which means that every nine inches the bullet does one complete revolution, that makes our new number 4533.333 revolutions per second. now multiply that by 60 to convert the number into revolutions per minute. our new number is 272,000 rpm's now if that isn't astounding enough check this. M = mach 741.4549 = mach as described in miles per hour 5280 = feet per mile V x 60 x 60 -------------- = mph 5280 here we go. again our loads are running at 3400 fps. so multiply by 60 to convert it into feet per minute, the number is 204,000 fpm, then multiply that by 60 again to convert it into feet per hour that number is 12,240,000 feet per hour. now divide that number by 5280 to convert it into miles per hour, and we get 2318.18 mph. now if we divide that number by 749.4549 you get the mach number which is 3.093 mach. so out of our dog loads we have an object traveling at a little over three times the speed of sound, turning 272,000 revolutions per minute and is hot enough to be sterile. it's amazing bullets stay together at all. so if we run those numbers according to speer bullets recommended maximum number.here is what i came up with. they say not to exceed 3400 fps. with a one in ten twist. so if you run the formula again you end up with the recommended maximum rpm's of 244,800 rpm's, our loads are at 272,000 rpm's. we are exceeding thier recommended maximum number by 27,200 rpm's. no wonder critters explode really violently.