hopefullly cp the daughter will be taking one of them down next weekend,and then there will be two other youths there also.but for the last two years they havn't did any good.i usually let them try for them the first couple of weeks then the last thurs and friday i will try to kill if i am not tagged out,then i'll take a buddy couple of the big ones to keep them thinned out.but i do most of my turkin up on goverment.i like alot of ground to wander on.