I may be a wimp but as I have said my 835 kicks like a mule. Especially when your shooting it like a rifle for this turkey hunting stuff. So I tried something. It ain't pretty but it works a bit. I carved out a spot in the stock where my baby soft white snowman cheek sits. Then I put in some carpet pad and covered it with some deer skin. It moved my eye just slightly higher and left which actually brought my point of impact closer to where I want it. It seems to have softened the wollup to the cheek a bit too, however I am still tender:whinging: there from those D&%M heavey 3&1/2"ers so I was just playing with some 2&3/4mags today. When I heal up I'l give the cannon balls a go again!