man how did i miss this post, yellow tip shockwave non bonded, i had problems with em 4-5 yrs ago, i haven't gone back to em, i hit 2 deer in 2 days 1 dink buck and 1 dandy i recovered the dink and not the dandy, when i cut the smaller buck up i realized why i tracked him 200yds and stuck another slug in him, the slugs actually fragmented on impact, i switched BACK to my XTP's and im still shooting those with zero hit deer getting away from me