New (to most) source of conicals and bullets for muzzleloaders - http://bullshop.gunloads.com/prices.html Bullet Man Dan casts some very good looking bulets at extremely competitive pricing. I have had him cast up 500 .451 conicals in pure lead that will weigh ~430 grains each and are based upon the Lyman 457193 mould. That mould makes a bullet very similar to one I produce myself from a LEE 457-405F mold. The one I make is superbly accurate and I expect Dan's will be just as good. The total cost of those 500 conicals, lubed with his own #2 lube, will be $105 delivered from Alaska! If you go to Dan's sight, take a look at his Links page and then Bullet Auction links. There you will get a look at some of the bullets he produces. They all look extremely good to me. He should also be able to produce bullets that would work well in sabots. Bullets can be produced in the alloy/hardness of your choice or pure lead as are mine. The great brotherhood of the DWBs will be working with Dan to find a most appropriate design for a .50 - .504 conical and hopefully he will be producing such a bullet soon. Meanwhile, Dan has stated he has other moulds which should produce very acceptable .50 cal conicals. We're communicating and I'm sure something good will come of it. Take note that if you need a special mould there will be additional cost. Just a heads up to some of you that like a choice and appreciate quality bargains. I will report back after testing the conicals Dan has produced for me. They are to be shipped tomorrow. I like to cast and produce my own hunting bullets but when a man can make and sell a comparable bullet for those prices - I may just shoot more and cast less.