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Snagging Season Starts Tomorrow!

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BackyardBandit
Anybody going to snag dinosaurs this week/weekend? Going to be a beautiful day tomorrow. I'm going to wait a bit until the rain starts, followed by nasty cold weather.
There’s also a $10000 first place tournament Saturday.
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trapperBR549 said:
until all the fish are gone.
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nah, that would never happen! if is does, oh well, I am willing to miss out on that fun.
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nah, that would never happen! if is does, oh well, I am willing to miss out on that fun.
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Can't overharvest turkeys either. Just keep catching and killing, they will replace themselves somehow!
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archer66
I have livescope but I didn’t take it last week for spoonbill. I know guys who use it and in their words “The big fish can’t hide”. Makes it easy to choose which fish to catch.
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trapperBR549 said:
until all the fish are gone.
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Doesn’t MDC still stock something like 50000 per year?

and with the ability to snag selectively, only the big fish will be gone.
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bluecan said:
Doesn’t MDC still stock something like 50000 per year?

and with the ability to snag selectively, only the big fish will be gone.
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I don’t know what big fish numbers are like and I don’t know the growth rate but you can bet that widespread ability to selectively target big fish is not a good thing.
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Muleskinner
I’ve been all day jerking lead and never hit a thing several times
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bluecan said:
Doesn’t MDC still stock something like 50000 per year?
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Average of 20k into LOZ each year. 16% never leave the main lake. If a guide catches 8 fish a day for 45 days that's 360 keeper fish per guide boat per season, and there's a BUNCH of guides out there these days.

And regular guys that switched from jerking all day to running divers are catching SUBSTANTIALLY more fish per day. It used to be pretty rare to catch a 4 man limit in a day when jerking, now I'm pissed if my boat doesn't catch 8 fish a day.
But the graph doesn't show the number of fish it did 5 years ago, opening weekend or a month later once the water warms up.

There's still a lot of fish out there don't get me wrong, but it takes about 8 years for one to be a keeper, so they better up their stocking rates to make up for the additional fish being caught today. MDC has acknowledged that in the lakes, but I'm not sure if they are acting upon it.
Either that or reduce the daily limit, or put in place an annual limit like Oklahoma does. Or charge a $10 snagging permit and put all that money into additional stocking. If you can't afford $10 a year, stay home.
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MDC could definitely take a few notes from Oklahoma when it comes to managing for spoonies. I'm sure they are too proud to admit that another state did something better and tweak its rules to be similar....
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nah, that would never happen! if is does, oh well, I am willing to miss out on that fun.
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Livescope - the crossbow of fishing!

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Livescope - the crossbow of fishing!

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You ain't lying there 421! I have one and love it for catching crappie, but I don't keep bigger ones or more than I did when I didn't have a scope....
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BackyardBandit
4 hour trip, 4 guys, $625 plus tip. 2 trips a day for 45 days straight, not a bad $60k+ to get the guiding season started!!
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BackyardBandit said:
4 hour trip, 4 guys, $625 plus tip. 2 trips a day for 45 days straight, not a bad $60k+ to get the guiding season started!!
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I would be shocked to hear that the guides are booked solid through the weekdays.
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Here’s an example of livescoping them. This guide guarantees a limit.
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bluecan said:
I would be shocked to hear that the guides are booked solid through the weekdays.
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A lot have seaarks with enclosures and snag every day of season rain or shine unless it’s bad lightning. And the one I know is pretty well booked every day. Maybe not 3 trips a day, but 1 or 2 for sure. I think most shoot for 2 trips a day, just like the catfish guides downtown stl.

Not sure I could grind out that schedule!
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Muleskinner
The divers and livescope make it a lot easier. But you don’t get the THUMP like you do jerking and surprise of what’s coming up.
I’m not against it but almost like shooting a booner in a high fence .
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Muleskinner said:
The divers and livescope make it a lot easier. But you don’t get the THUMP like you do jerking and surprise of what’s coming up.
I’m not against it but almost like shooting a booner in a high fence .
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Nobody said you can’t hang on to the rod while you troll! But yea I see what you’re saying.
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BackyardBandit said:
Can't overharvest turkeys either. Just keep catching and killing, they will replace themselves somehow!
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Same as raccoons!!!!!! Lol
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bluecan said:
I would be shocked to hear that the guides are booked solid through the weekdays.
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I stay in touch with a couple of guides and they aren't mad when a trip so they can have a little break. They stay busy and it definitely becomes a grind! Fishing is my favorite hobby, but I'm ready for a break after two-three days of hard fishing. I couldn't imagine doing anything almost every day for 45 days straight.
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Muleskinner said:
The divers and livescope make it a lot easier. But you don’t get the THUMP like you do jerking and surprise of what’s coming up.
I’m not against it but almost like shooting a booner in a high fence .
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I've always compared it to trolling crankbaits or spider rigging for crappie versus single poling for them. You're catching fish, but it's just not quite the same.
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I have never snagged a minute of my life. Always wondered, how the heck aren’t a bunch of blue cats, flatheads, sturgeon, and a few walleyes getting snagged as well?
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