Remington XR-100
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They are pretty good rifles, a buddy has one in .204. As long as you're cool with a single shot, it makes a good stick (they are ONLY single shots). They are also quite heavy, but that's a good thing when shooting from a bench. Only one thing bad about them, that I know of, and it's the same with all factory .204s, the throat is quite long, and you really have to seat the bullet way out there, to get it shooting well. No problem at all in a single shot, but a hassle in a repeater. That same thing is going on, in all chamberings, not just the .204, so just be aware of that, and they work well. All in all, Sid likes his a lot.
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I got it too..
Remington ADL Varmint in 22-250, 223, 24 inch barrel medium heavy reg $499 on sale $399 20025-248/250
Rem 700 light Varmint (stainless) 204, 22-250,223 22 in barrel reg $799 on ale for $599 2001-096,20017-301/302 (also get free eltronic game caller ($49:99 value)
probably have to go to Cabelas tho
Remington ADL Varmint in 22-250, 223, 24 inch barrel medium heavy reg $499 on sale $399 20025-248/250
Rem 700 light Varmint (stainless) 204, 22-250,223 22 in barrel reg $799 on ale for $599 2001-096,20017-301/302 (also get free eltronic game caller ($49:99 value)
probably have to go to Cabelas tho
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Thanks.. yea, I am aware that it is a singleshot but I'm ok with that I guess. Bulk of the use for this one is prairiedogs and target anyway although I would like to be able to reload if the need arises for, say yotes or something. Guess if I go this way, I'll just have to make a good first shot! I am leaning toward .223 right now.
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If ammo price is important, stick with .223! I load all my own stuff, so it isn't as big a deal to me, but the .204 is MUCH flatter shooting than the .223, it just hits a little easier, due to lighter bullets being used. Works well on groundhogs and PDs, though
There are conflicting reports on coyotes, some report no trouble killing coyotes doubledead, some report the bullets coming apart on the hides. Depends on the bullet used....... Take everything you read or hear with a grain of salt, about ANY cartridge, though. I like my .204s a lot, but I haven't sold my .223s, either. Open minds collect more info..... Factory .204 ammo is coming down in price, but it's still about $12 a box. I'm a moderator on the .204 forum, but I'm not looking at the cartridge with rose-colored glasses, it's a fine load, but not earthshakingly better than .223.
There are conflicting reports on coyotes, some report no trouble killing coyotes doubledead, some report the bullets coming apart on the hides. Depends on the bullet used....... Take everything you read or hear with a grain of salt, about ANY cartridge, though. I like my .204s a lot, but I haven't sold my .223s, either. Open minds collect more info..... Factory .204 ammo is coming down in price, but it's still about $12 a box. I'm a moderator on the .204 forum, but I'm not looking at the cartridge with rose-colored glasses, it's a fine load, but not earthshakingly better than .223.
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WAY flatter way out there.
www.204ruger.com
The website I help monitor has a forum and about all the info you can digest, in tabs at the top of the page. There is a lot of good reading there, whether you handload or not, including the drop charts. I might even have some in my files, lemme check, if so, I'll post something to peep at!
www.204ruger.com
The website I help monitor has a forum and about all the info you can digest, in tabs at the top of the page. There is a lot of good reading there, whether you handload or not, including the drop charts. I might even have some in my files, lemme check, if so, I'll post something to peep at!
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Thanks! Lots good info.. I am admittedly new to the varmit dealy.
Originally though, I want advice on this Remington gun. Glenn... whats your opinion, if any, on this piece? BTW.. need to scope whatever I get as well.
I heard good things about the savage with the accutrigger as well...
Originally though, I want advice on this Remington gun. Glenn... whats your opinion, if any, on this piece? BTW.. need to scope whatever I get as well.
I heard good things about the savage with the accutrigger as well...
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Tactical Twenty drop target
This target was shot from a Tactical Twenty (.20/.223Improved, basically) a custom barrel that shot a 33 grain bullet @4300fps, or just about what a .204 does with factory loads. Study it real close, it tells a tale, doesn't it? 1.5 inches high at 100, 3" high at 200, STILL 1" high at 300!!!Almost boggles the mind, the only thing that shoots flatter from the factory, is the .223 WSSM, with 40 grain bullets at 4600fps (and really poor accuracy!)
I haven't noticed the barrel of the .204 heating up any faster than the .223s, since there's more steel around the bore, and powder charges are essentially the same, there's bound to be some extra heating, but not much, certainly NOT as bad as a .22/250.
This target was shot from a Tactical Twenty (.20/.223Improved, basically) a custom barrel that shot a 33 grain bullet @4300fps, or just about what a .204 does with factory loads. Study it real close, it tells a tale, doesn't it?
1.5 inches high at 100, 3" high at 200, STILL 1" high at 300!!!Almost boggles the mind, the only thing that shoots flatter from the factory, is the .223 WSSM, with 40 grain bullets at 4600fps (and really poor accuracy!)I haven't noticed the barrel of the .204 heating up any faster than the .223s, since there's more steel around the bore, and powder charges are essentially the same, there's bound to be some extra heating, but not much, certainly NOT as bad as a .22/250.
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rat,
might have glenn clarify this but if the throats are long in those models then you will probably have trouble with factory ammo. i havn't purchased factory stuff in a while but i don't think they give you a choice in the cases overall length. with the bullet needing to be seated way out there to eliminate the wide bullet jump that might be an issue to look into unless you plan to start cooking your own. not bad mouthing remingtons, i own several and will never get shed of them. if i had the extra money i would be headed to cabelas sfor the 700 light varmint. just thinking with my fingers here.
you also mentioned savage with the accutrigger. i love my .243 in the varmint package. the trigger is one of my favorites. also you might think about the howas. as i posted i have a .223 and 22-250 in them and i have fell in love with the .223 and rapidly getting there with the 22-250. people shrug them off because they are made in japan but my experience has been nothing but good with them.
might have glenn clarify this but if the throats are long in those models then you will probably have trouble with factory ammo. i havn't purchased factory stuff in a while but i don't think they give you a choice in the cases overall length. with the bullet needing to be seated way out there to eliminate the wide bullet jump that might be an issue to look into unless you plan to start cooking your own. not bad mouthing remingtons, i own several and will never get shed of them. if i had the extra money i would be headed to cabelas sfor the 700 light varmint. just thinking with my fingers here.
you also mentioned savage with the accutrigger. i love my .243 in the varmint package. the trigger is one of my favorites. also you might think about the howas. as i posted i have a .223 and 22-250 in them and i have fell in love with the .223 and rapidly getting there with the 22-250. people shrug them off because they are made in japan but my experience has been nothing but good with them.
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Thanks for all that info.
A friend of mine has the 700 in .223 and he bought 1000 rounds last year before the trip. I forget what manufacturer but he said they were terrible.. he gotem real cheap and I guess you get what you pay for. Beings that I will not be reloading my own, can you suggest factory loads that are reliable for .223?
Thanks for the info..
A friend of mine has the 700 in .223 and he bought 1000 rounds last year before the trip. I forget what manufacturer but he said they were terrible.. he gotem real cheap and I guess you get what you pay for. Beings that I will not be reloading my own, can you suggest factory loads that are reliable for .223?
Thanks for the info..
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Two words.......... Black Hills..... I have a hard time keeping up with them, to be honest about it, it's REALLY good stuff. Avoid the molycoated stuff, but use either the 50 VMax or 52 HP load, sure stuff on PDs. If you can't find it, get the "white box Winchester" 45-46 grain bulk load, it seems to shoot well in most rifles, too.
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