[20']

Best solution in my opinion is 1 buck tag per year good for any leagal weapon approved for the season you’re hunting. Pick your poison. When you punch your buck tag you’re done unless you want to help control the population by harvesting does. Problem solved.

Yup, if the firearms season is moved to December bring it on, otherwise don’t piss on my back and tell it is raining!

 

[beardsNspurs78]

Man some of you guys will beech and argue about literally anything at every opportunity. Let’s get back to the play by plays. Those of us that are done huntin are enjoying the updates

 

[HarvDog]

I’m taking my chances on the dink busting and drawing on him, time it right and if the big boy hesitates at all he’s dead

 

[20']

I’m taking my chances on the dink busting and drawing on him, time it right and if the big boy hesitates at all he’s dead

That thought was 100% going through my mind, but there were no goo windows of any size and the dink was looking at me, they were close enough that maybe the bust it 10-15 yards, but again there were almost no windows to that side that were bigger than soccer balls. I really wanted to draw as he was walking towards the dink, and likely he would have hesitated a moment, but lack of openings had me thinking otherwise.

since it absolutely did NOT work outand I didn’t get him in range again drawing May have worked???

 

[missionshooter]

Best solution in my opinion is 1 buck tag per year good for any leagal weapon approved for the season you’re hunting. Pick your poison. When you punch your buck tag you’re done unless you want to help control the population by harvesting does. Problem solved.

AGREED. Look at what happened to the quality of the herd and buck harvest when Indiana became a 1 buck state. It was incredible difference.

 

[pmpeaks63]

Yep! Shoot the 1 buck that you want with the legal weapon you want. What could be more simple and at the same time decrease the buck harvest thereby increasing the number of bucks and by default, improve the age structure. I'll support that!

 

[20']

Not without moving that firearms season outta the peak rut, no thanks

 

[pmpeaks63]

Not without moving that firearms season outta the peak rut, no thanks

I think moving the season would be a harder sell than the 1 buck rule so I would take a victory with that if I could get it. I would also support moving the rifle season back at least a week but there seems to an awful lot of pushback on moving rifle. If the ultimate goal is to improve buck age structure, I believe the 1 buck rule would accomplish that.

 

[antlercrazed]

Or just don’t touch a thing and have fun. 1 buck rule sucks ball sack for anybody who really loves to hunt. Just shoot what makes you happy and if you are shooting deer that don’t make you happy then you are part of the problem and not the solution.Stop shooting deer with visible antlers and being able to claim them as does be an easy fix if you wanted more bucks on landscape

 

[pmpeaks63]

Or just don’t touch a thing and have fun. 1 buck rule sucks ball sack for anybody who really loves to hunt. Just shoot what makes you happy and if you are shooting deer that don’t make you happy then you are part of the problem and not the solution.Stop shooting deer with visible antlers and being able to claim them as does be an easy fix if you wanted more bucks on landscape

If we could depend on the vast majority to use restraint to let young deer walk that would be great but that isnt currently happening. Sometimes you have to set limits to achieve the desired outcome. You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome…

 

[antlercrazed]

If we could depend on the vast majority to use restraint to let young deer walk that would be great but that isnt currently happening. Sometimes you have to set limits to achieve the desired outcome. You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome…

You just answered why it shouldn’t change. The vast majority doesn’t want to change, so therefore they should have more voice than you. That’s how things are suppose to work. Unfortunately deer hunting isn’t fair or equal for everybody. All you can do is get out of it what you put into it. Only takes a few people to make a difference locally to improve the deer and unfortunately that’s the only option there is currently and probably will be the only option there is for a long time because I would venture to say 97% or more of all hunters do not want a 1 buck rule

 

[20']

I think moving the season would be a harder sell than the 1 buck rule so I would take a victory with that if I could get it. I would also support moving the rifle season back at least a week but there seems to an awful lot of pushback on moving rifle. If the ultimate goal is to improve buck age structure, I believe the 1 buck rule would accomplish that.

Do it right or don’t do it!

 

[pmpeaks63]

You just answered why it shouldn’t change. The vast majority doesn’t want to change, so therefore they should have more voice than you. That’s how things are suppose to work. Unfortunately deer hunting isn’t fair or equal for everybody. All you can do is get out of it what you put into it. Only takes a few people to make a difference locally to improve the deer and unfortunately that’s the only option there is currently and probably will be the only option there is for a long time because I would venture to say 97% or more of all hunters do not want a 1 buck rule

I know that a big part of the draw for NR coming to MO are the relatively cheap over the counter tags and the timing of the bow/gun season (rut) allows the possibility of taking two bucks home. If a hunter has 2 weeks to dedicate to hunting the last week of archery and the 1st week of rifle, odds are pretty good that 2 bucks can be harvested on a good lease. Not too many NR are willing to go home with tag soup so maybe harvest a couple of 125 in 3 yr old deer. How many nonresidents contribute significantly to doe harvest? I would venture to say 97% don't. At the very least, I think changing NR tags to 1 buck and 1 doe good for any legal weapon allowed for the season makes sense. If I only have one buck tag in my pocket, I get a lot more picky about what I shoot. I venture to say 97% of other hunters would be more picky too.

 

[20']

I know that a big part of the draw for NR coming to MO are the relatively cheap over the counter tags and the timing of the bow/gun season (rut) allows the possibility of taking two bucks home. If a hunter has 2 weeks to dedicate to hunting the last week of archery and the 1st week of rifle, odds are pretty good that 2 bucks can be harvested on a good lease. Not too many NR are willing to go home with tag soup so maybe harvest a couple of 125 in 3 yr old deer. How many nonresidents contribute significantly to doe harvest? I would venture to say 97% don't. At the very least, I think changing NR tags to 1 buck and 1 doe good for any legal weapon allowed for the season makes sense. If I only have one buck tag in my pocket, I get a lot more picky about what I shoot. I venture to say 97% of other hunters would be more picky too.

I would be for the NR going to OBR!!!! I would even be willing to something along the lines of only 1 buck through the end of firearms season, so if I killed one in archery I could not shoot another until after firearms, especially if they moved the season a week or so, but even if they did not move the season. But honestly, MDC has already taken opportunity from archery hunters, I am not looking to take any opportunity from anyone, rather just tweak the firearms season placement! Start the firearms season the Monday of the week BEFORE thanksgiving, and run it to the Sunday of thankgiving weekend.....that would be an additional 2 days, 14 days total, two weekends, the 2nd weeekend would LIKELY allow families to hunt together and maybe more relatives that moved away to hunt with family. It would also allow many to save a day or two of vacation. Key is starting the firearms season on a MONDAY!!

MDC should also get rid of the 2 turkey tags that come with the archery tags. If you wanted a chance at a turkey purchase a separate turkey tag and make some more revenue for the MDC.

 

[Str8 Killn]

one buck for NR would be nice

 

[antlercrazed]

I know that a big part of the draw for NR coming to MO are the relatively cheap over the counter tags and the timing of the bow/gun season (rut) allows the possibility of taking two bucks home. If a hunter has 2 weeks to dedicate to hunting the last week of archery and the 1st week of rifle, odds are pretty good that 2 bucks can be harvested on a good lease. Not too many NR are willing to go home with tag soup so maybe harvest a couple of 125 in 3 yr old deer. How many nonresidents contribute significantly to doe harvest? I would venture to say 97% don't. At the very least, I think changing NR tags to 1 buck and 1 doe good for any legal weapon allowed for the season makes sense. If I only have one buck tag in my pocket, I get a lot more picky about what I shoot. I venture to say 97% of other hunters would be more picky too.

I have hunted and been around large groups of NR hunters for the last 15 years my uncle is an outfitter. I know of 4 people who have killed 2 bucks in a season,1 being myself. Changing non resident tags to 1 buck is just a cop out an feel good, would do absolutely nothing. I know it’s hard for y’all to believe but Missouri’s age structure is the way it is because of the majority of hunters which are resident hunters do not hold the same “I have to kill a 150” deer or bust” mentality you a select few have. Most people come to Missouri to bow hunt from Oct 30th-Nov 10th time frames,most also kill 2.5 or older at the very minimum but I know on my uncles hunts 3.5 or older is the average and usually every kill is over 130”s. I have never seen a non resident shoot a 4pt or a spike or any of that **** that it would take for the entire state average harvest to be 2.5 year olds. It’s a numbers game so either you leave stuff the same,or go to one buck rule. Not let’s make a law that saves 100 bucks a year that will make no change. Moving the rifle season would prolly have a decent effect but I doubt most people want to. If you are hunting anywhere north of the big river and not killing mature deer I would be willing to bet it’s a “you” problem an not a Missouri problem unless my buddies and myself are just the luckiest hunters alive. We have hunted more farms than I can remember and have had success on every one of them. The amount of 140-160” deer we have killed over the years would fill up a large shop. My one friend kills a 150” plus buck every single year on every single farm he steps foot on, @letemgrow can verify that his name is Ryan. I get it that sure Missouri could be better but is it really that bad that is the question? And the answer is no,it really is a great place to hunt. Sure some parts of the state are better than others but that’s any state in the country. There are lots of areas of north Iowa worse than Missouri. Hunting is what you make of it. And I don’t feel sorry for someone who posts 3.5 year olds that they have killed multiple times,preaching about banning this and banning that to try an make hunting better for themselves. And I’m not talking about you but I’m sure they know who they are if they feel guilty lol.

 

[callaojoe]

Putting OBR on NR's would save what, a handfull of bucks? I still say, you want to see more bigger bucks on the place you hunt, don't shoot them when they are sub 160" bucks.... That 150" buck has a much better chance of becoming a 160" plus deer on your wall if you don't shoot him, then telling NR's who probably don't even hunt near you they can only kill one buck next year.

I guess I see things to simply though, as changing regs for the whole state in an attempt to accomplish what you are not willing to sacrifice for to see it happen, does not make much sense to me. But, I fully understand that is my opinion, and some may not agree with it, and that's ok.....

 

[Reflex]

Putting OBR on NR's would save what, a handfull of bucks? I still say, you want to see more bigger bucks on the place you hunt, don't shoot them when they are sub 160" bucks.... That 150" buck has a much better chance of becoming a 160" plus deer on your wall if you don't shoot him, then telling NR's who probably don't even hunt near you they can only kill one buck next year.

I guess I see things to simply though, as changing regs for the whole state in an attempt to accomplish what you are not willing to sacrifice for to see it happen, does not make much sense to me. But, I fully understand that is my opinion, and some may not agree with it, and that's ok.....

Some would say, changing the regs to accomplish your specific goal is using the easy button.........

 

[20']

And I don’t feel sorry for someone who posts 3.5 year olds that they have killed multiple times,preaching about banning this and banning that to try an make hunting better for themselves. And I’m not talking about you but I’m sure they know who they are if they feel guilty lol.
[/QUOTE]

You must be one of the inbred southern folk people speak of, because I have NEVER said ban this or ban that, I have pushed for moving the 12-day firearms season out of the peak rut, keep archery season to bows, an keeping traditional season to weapons that are not semi autos (oh the horror)!!!!!! But bumping the firearms back would put more MATURE deer for EVERYONE to hunt, not just ONE person (I can't help you understand that), and still allow hunters to kill what they want!! You are likely better at aging deer you shoot .....than you are at some others you may see. I don't know if the buck i shot this year was 3.5 or 4.5, I was leaning 3.5 and couple others said likely 4.5, don't care there was no one more pissed off than I was whether he was 3.5 or 4.5 or even if he was 8.5!!!! You may think the southern boys don't shoot 2.5 year bucks, but they most certainly do in Missouri if my buddies that hunt public know what a 110' deer looks like piled in trucks with MS, LA, AL, FL plates.

 

[antlercrazed]

You must be one of the inbred southern folk people speak of, because I have NEVER said ban this or ban that, I have pushed for moving the 12-day firearms season out of the peak rut, keep archery season to bows, an keeping traditional season to weapons that are not semi autos (oh the horror)!!!!!! But bumping the firearms back would put more MATURE deer for EVERYONE to hunt, not just ONE person (I can't help you understand that), and still allow hunters to kill what they want!! You are likely better at aging deer you shoot .....than you are at some others you may see. I don't know if the buck i shot this year was 3.5 or 4.5, I was leaning 3.5 and couple others said likely 4.5, don't care there was no one more pissed off than I was whether he was 3.5 or 4.5 or even if he was 8.5!!!! You may think the southern boys don't shoot 2.5 year bucks, but they most certainly do in Missouri if my buddies that hunt public know what a 110' deer looks like piled in trucks with MS, LA, AL, FL plates.

Awww you feeling guilty I see. Funny I didn’t name anybody but you spoke up lol. Nope you never said ban crossbows and you didn’t say making NR have 1 buck tag you would support lol. And like I said but you fail to understand math. If every non resident killed nothing but 2.5 year olds do you know how many amounts of deer that age and younger than that has to be killed by residents to make the average harvest for the entire state to be 1.5-2.5 year old bucks. It’s not even close. And since you are feeling guilty you must be owning up to shooting some 3.5 year olds so apparently you aren’t even willing to pass a good young deer to begin with so when your dream utopia happens and there is more big deer to shoot are you going to pass a 150” 3.5 year old?What about a 170” 3.5 year old?If you would shoot a big 3.5 year old then someone shooting what you would call a dink that’s 3.5 you are no better than them. My buddies and me must be the greatest hunters alive since we kill and see lots of big deer that apparently don’t exist lol