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QDM Legislation for Missourians

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Hey guys,
After my most recent 4 y/o buck that i passed 7x fell victim to the firearms rut last fall I finally decided it was time. I’m starting a group to unify a front to combat lobbyists and try to roll back and fix some of what mdc is continuing to erode from the resource with the goal in mind to improve the deer herd/seasons on the following basic things… I’m trying to not get down a rabbit hole on this just yet- keeping simple for greatest impact to begin with while focusing on greatest benefits for the resource and the opportunity for RESIDENTS of missouri, not to be used as tax revenue generation tool.
There are numerous other topics to discuss but this is where starting would have the greatest impact while generating more $ for MDC other than luring thousands of NRs to our state with cheap tags.
1) move firearms anydeer season to the first week of December
2) Increase Non-resident permit pricing to align with other midwest states and only allow 1 buck for non residents

If you watched the videos from skip in my post from last fall on keeping iowa great i would greatly encourage you to check out more content from him on iowa whitetail. The missouri forum has turned into a s**t show years ago and i lost interest trying to fight through all the bs.
Skip is buddy of mine and he had great success over the winter killing bills in iowa state congress that would diminish what iowa has. He is giving counciling me on how to get traction on some of the issues we face in MO. Mainly lacking th opportunity to harvest mature age class bucks.
PM me your phone # and email address if you want to get on board and i will add you to my email list.
Thank you

Joe

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I guess it would depend on your definition of quality. Does big buck management equal a quality and healthy deer herd
I guess it would depend on your definition of quality. Does big buck management equal a quality and healthy deer herd
Quality would be a balanced age structure in the deer herd. There’s an obvious difference on how many deer reach maturity in IA vs MO.
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I don't know I've killed a ton of old as the hills does here in Central Missouri!
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Can’t effing compare the Southern Missouri Ozarks to Iowa or your crop land/CRP farm for god sakes. A blanket December season for all of Missouri would just be stupid.
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Can’t effing compare the Southern Missouri Ozarks to Iowa or your crop land/CRP farm for god sakes. A blanket December season for all of Missouri would just be stupid.
How would it be any different (for improving age structure) with timing of the firearms any deer season in southern MO?
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color me in, I will PM you the info!
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You’d be hard pressed to see a deer in December. They simply aren’t pouring into the 50 acres of standing beans out of the 100 acres of CRP ground like the you northern guys seems to think is the normal.
You’d be hard pressed to see a deer in December. They simply aren’t pouring into the 50 acres of standing beans out of the 100 acres of CRP ground like the you northern guys seems to think is the normal.
I don’t think I can agree with this, if there wasn’t a slaughter season in November deer would be readily visible in early December.
I would be for a compromise, make a 3 day season the weekend before thanksgiving and the a week long season staringvthebmonday after thanksgiving.
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You’d be hard pressed to see a deer in December. They simply aren’t pouring into the 50 acres of standing beans out of the 100 acres of CRP ground like the you northern guys seems to think is the normal.
I beg to differ. Hardly the norm. Have you actually hunted December? Specifically a December after the woods haven’t been pounded out for 12 days? Some of my best opportunities/hunts have been hunting big timber after Thanksgiving. Mid/late mornings the first week of December are dynamite if you have done your homework.
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Everyone flocks to Kansas to hunt the 2nd rut, aka rifle season that starts the first Wednesday after Thanksgiving for 10 days

will take some really deep pockets to fight the lobbyist as that is what you will become also.
I get fund raising e-mails from the Sportsman's Alliance and MCF almost monthly, actualy if they have a fund raising going on, e-mails are every 2 weeks.. Then there is the Farm Bureau
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Don’t you lease out your property every year?
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MDC wants high numbers of deer killed. That’s why they keep liberalizing seasons to make it easier to kill them. Auto collisions, crop damage and CWD are some of the reasons. Unless changing the season dates can improve age structure without reducing total kill numbers I don’t ever see them changing anything. Even then they won’t change the dates and piss off most firearm hunters that love hunting the rut to just end up with the same amount of deer killed. I wish you luck. I’d love 2-3 more weeks to bow hunt before gun season comes in and the woods are flooded with the orange army.
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Curious, what is “big timber” to you? I dare say your definition is vastly different than mine?
Can’t compare north MO or IA or KS and deer activity in December to southern MO.
I suggest the same as turkeys. Divide that state into two zones and have two seasons at different times. Pick if you want to hunt the north zone or south zone when you buy your tag and then that is when and where you hunt.
too cold no thankyou. I think if your 65+ you should be able to hunt Youth Season. Call it Alternative Age Season
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too cold no thankyou. I think if your 65+ you should be able to hunt Youth Season. Call it Alternative Age Season
I would be firmly against that, at least until I am 65.
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too cold no thankyou. I think if your 65+ you should be able to hunt Youth Season. Call it Alternative Age Season
You would need to have some one set up the blind or tree staand, clear shooting lanes, carry the gun mounted tri-pod plus thegun or cross-bow if you want to hunt during the youth season
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Don’t you lease out your property every year?
Negative
Did for couple years to help pay for some capital improvements then kept to myself
Curious, what is “big timber” to you? I dare say your definition is vastly different than mine?
Can’t compare north MO or IA or KS and deer activity in December to southern MO.
I suggest the same as turkeys. Divide that state into two zones and have two seasons at different times. Pick if you want to hunt the north zone or south zone when you buy your tag and then that is when and where you hunt.
I wouldnt be opposed to that at all as i will never hunt down there. But i would hate for the rest of the state to miss out on what could make all of MO a top whitetail state
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Be missing out on nothing. There are old and huge deer in the Ozarks no doubt. But the Ozarks nor the deer that inhabit them have absolutely nothing nor will ever have anything in common with the ag land deer habitat that has spawned the later season craze.
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