I understand. It is very frustrating how turkey populations can fluctuate so wildly. I saw a devastating population decline on our home place in Louisiana after i graduated from College 30 years ago, and it has never rebounded and very likely never will.@Hooks The sahara transitioning took several hundred centuries. Most of the folks I hear talking about turkey numbers being lower are talking about over the last 5-10 years. Habitat changes in that time no doubt, but enough to cut turkey numbers by 1-2/3rd? Ozark oak/hickory climax, glades, etc where farming doesnt encroach much hasnt changed much in a very long time on the Ozark plateau, an area that easterns are VERY well acclimated to. The birds are still there, nobody I know minds working harder... just curious how/what has happened.