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It sure is a pain to try and walk through. It is thick on our lease in Lewis County.
MDC dont care because its native. Deer will not walk through it. Nothing grows under it and is a desert for wildlife. Tuff to control because greens up late and stem count makes it impossible to control in Winter months. Thinking about backpack blower mister like Stihl sr-450. Might play hell on good brows but efficient also on bush honeysuckle and multiflora also.
 

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interesting but I found this and my wife appreciating old timey medicine would say let it grow


"Historically, many Native American tribes used prickly ash as a medicinal herb. They used an infusion of the bark to treat everything from itchy skin to back pain as well as cramps, fevers, colds, lung conditions, toothaches, sore throats, pain from childbirth, and colic in babies.3

In the 19th century, Charles Millspaugh described the use of prickly ash in his book American Herbal Medicine. In it, he identified prickly ash as a remedy for pneumonia, cholera, typhus, typhoid, and more.4

Millspaugh explained in his book, “The action was prompt and permanent... Prickly ash acted like electricity, so sudden and diffusive was its influence over the entire system. I consider the tincture of prickly ash to be superior to any form of medication I know of.

cant say I see any up here in northrn Howard cnty
 

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interesting but I found this and my wife appreciating old timey medicine would say let it grow


"Historically, many Native American tribes used prickly ash as a medicinal herb. They used an infusion of the bark to treat everything from itchy skin to back pain as well as cramps, fevers, colds, lung conditions, toothaches, sore throats, pain from childbirth, and colic in babies.3

In the 19th century, Charles Millspaugh described the use of prickly ash in his book American Herbal Medicine. In it, he identified prickly ash as a remedy for pneumonia, cholera, typhus, typhoid, and more.4

Millspaugh explained in his book, “The action was prompt and permanent... Prickly ash acted like electricity, so sudden and diffusive was its influence over the entire system. I consider the tincture of prickly ash to be superior to any form of medication I know of.

cant say I see any up here in northrn Howard cnty
I'm gonna go ahead and retire then with the amount on my place.
 

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I stopped by the Randolph Co. USDA earlier. CSP sign up is in October. If anyone is interested in this program, it would be in your best interest to have completed a MDC prescribed burn workshop if you plan to do the work yourself.
I was out there today over the lunch hour today getting info on CSP. There was another guy in the office asking about seeds, what that you? :D
 

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Worked with John Fleming as our consultant to oversee our harvest in Franklin county. He is a good guy and knows his stuff, but overall he did not need to be that involved in the harvest. Tyler Cox did our TSI. They were responsive and out on our property within a few weeks of contacting them. They blasted through the areas quickly and overall we were pleased. We had some issues with them cutting non-target trees (dogwoods and small stem) and there was no regard to felling trees on existing paths. We had two paths in about 20 acres of harvest that were impassable upon completion. They also dropped trees all through our creek making it impossible to walk through. We should have clarified those points with them in advance, especially the creek. Good luck!
I’ll have to say, doesn’t sound very impressive. I sure the heck would think if they knew what the hell they were doing they wouldn’t be dropping/leaving trees on trails that are established and used, dropping trees in the creek/branch to cause a flooding/erosion issue, or cutting dogwoods. Seems like that would come with them being the “expert” and No clarification needed.
 

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I'm 1 year in to an EQIP contract. Eric Yarnell did my forest management plan. Heartland is working on a burn plan. I've completed and NRCS has inspected 3 acres of edge feathering and a 6 acre glade restoration. I should get paid next week. The glade was grown up in cedar, oak and hickory sprouts most were less than 2" diameter. I used a weedeater with a blade to cut most of the brush, for the bigger stuff I use a chainsaw. I'm about 2 acres into a 6 acres savannah creation. If burn plan gets done, I will burn glade and savannah next winter/spring if not I'll wait until 2025. After savannah is done, I've got 35 acres of TSI and a fence to build for exclusion. I'm very please with NRCS payment rates. I'm doing the work myself and making pretty good wages.
 

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Savannahs sure take a lot more time than the glade. Their is lots of bigger trees that take more time to cut. I'm 20 hours in and have about 2 acres done. It kind of hurts me to cut a perfectly straight 12" red oak, but they are not fire tolerant therefore not a good choice to leave. Tall straight trees left without other supporting trees would probably break during first ice or wet snow anyway. The plan is to leave 10- 50% canopy of white oak, post oak and even some black jack(leaving a black jack bothers me as well). I left one good size shag bark hickory. I'm cutting all the cedars, elms, sassafras, black cherry, hackberry... There are a few big red oak that would be hard maybe even unsafe to cut so I'm going to hack and squirt them. They have lots of dead limbs from the ice storm and red oak decline, so no lumber value.
 

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Savannahs sure take a lot more time than the glade. Their is lots of bigger trees that take more time to cut. I'm 20 hours in and have about 2 acres done. It kind of hurts me to cut a perfectly straight 12" red oak, but they are not fire tolerant therefore not a good choice to leave. Tall straight trees left without other supporting trees would probably break during first ice or wet snow anyway. The plan is to leave 10- 50% canopy of white oak, post oak and even some black jack(leaving a black jack bothers me as well). I left one good size shag bark hickory. I'm cutting all the cedars, elms, sassafras, black cherry, hackberry... There are a few big red oak that would be hard maybe even unsafe to cut so I'm going to hack and squirt them. They have lots of dead limbs from the ice storm and red oak decline, so no lumber value.

Be careful when releasing your white oaks, that you don't leave them too bare if they've been shaded, otherwise they won't survive. Leave cover on at least 60%. If the tree's haven't had full sun they will die from sun scald if you leave them bare. I lost a beautiful white oak in our last TSI because we cut too hard around that tree.
 
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