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My 2019 Moose Hunt - A Disappointing Tale

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Late last week I returned from my 8-day moose hunt in British Columbia. I had booked this hunt almost 18 months ago with Big Country Outfitters in BC. My buddy, Bret Shaw, and I stayed in a little cabin with two guides on Margaret Lake which is about 70 miles northwest of Prince George, BC. At least one of us saw a moose every day but we were never able to stretch the string on a bull. For some reason the bulls didn't appear to be rutting in the area so that made calling them in difficult. We had a couple of days of crappy weather which didn't help either. Another big problem we faced was the fact that neither one of our guides knew the first thing about bow hunting. One of the guides had never even been in the area before we pulled up in front the cabin with our gear. I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard one of the guides say, "If we were rifle hunting, we would..." To say the outfitter totally dropped the ball on this hunt is an understatement! It was what it was, though, so Bret and I made the best of it. It was great to spend time with him again and we got to see some beautiful country. We also got plenty of exercise and ate very well. Here are a few photos from the trip.

We drove 90 minutes from Prince George to a place where we left the trucks. Then we rode quads back into the bush at least another hour to reach the cabin. One of the quads never would start and the guides, Shawn and Tom, spent over an hour trying to get it to run. That pretty much set the tone for our hunt.


Margaret Lake



Home sweet home for the next 8 days


Roughing it


The closest I got to a moose


A typical day of hunting for me went like this: Shawn and I would get dropped off at the east end of Margaret Lake just after daylight and we would walk out to one of the cut blocks of timber. From there, we would glass, call, and walk back to camp sometime around noon. That was usually a 6 or 7 mile loop. That afternoon, we would drive the quads back out to the cut blocks and do the same thing only from the back of the bikes. Shawn was big on road hunting. Setting up a bowhunting ambush was not in his toolkit.

Bret Shaw ready to hunt


A typical day for Bret and Tom went like this: They would motor around the lake trying to spot a moose feeding. If they saw nothing then they would park on the shore and bust brush all morning trying to find a moose. They would repeat the procedure in the afternoon. I guess the guide, Tom, thought they would somehow miraculously sneak up on a bull within bow range while doing this. Oddly enough, they did come the closest. They saw two immature bulls; one at 75 yards and one at 40 yards. Tom was upset that Bret didn't borrow Tom's rifle to seal the deal.

My guide, Shawn.


One evening, Shawn and I actually had a real moose hunt just like you see on TV. It was almost dark and we were walking back to the quads to go back to camp. A cow was standing near the bikes so we stopped and Shawn called. A bull immediately answered about 100 yards away and started coming in. We had about 15 minutes of shooting light left and I told Shawn that the bull was going to have to be close. The bull was still out there but it got too dark to shoot. The cow had left so we walked down to the bikes. Shawn started calling to the bull again. I thought this was foolish because it would make the bull call shy and I told him so. He said he wanted to see what the bull looked like and continued calling. The bull came in, tearing up brush and grunting. He stopped about 50 yards away. Through the binoculars we could see he was a monster. He finally turned and went back the way he had come. We never heard or saw him again.

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The silver haired hunter


Last day at camp


Darren
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Some beautiful country there.
Country does look pretty, sorry to hear the guides weren't up for a bow hunt, that was certainly compounded by the fact the bulls weren't rutting I'm sure.
Did the outfitter advertise that they did traditional archery hunts or was it just moose hunts in general? Was he aware that you guys were ONLY going to use traditional archery equipment?
Malpractice on the Outfitter for supplying a "guide" who had never seen the country. That would not have pleased me one bit. You must be a little more tolerant and patient than I would have been....

Nice hiking vacation in the wilderness I guess.
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Did the outfitter advertise that they did traditional archery hunts or was it just moose hunts in general? Was he aware that you guys were ONLY going to use traditional archery equipment?
The outfitter knew well in advance that we were stickbow shooters and not bringing any firearms. He said he was good with that. I don't really blame the guides for what took place. They worked hard to get us a bull but they were just out of their element. Would things have been different if they were actually bowhunters themselves? Who knows? As everyone here is well aware, there are a lot of different factors to take into account when you are hunting. I do know the outfitter's camp to the south of us killed 3 bulls in 4 days - all rifle kills.

I enjoyed the time I spent hunting and I really enjoyed getting to hunt with my buddy again. I mainly feel duped and/or betrayed by the outfitter. I told him what I wanted, he said he could do it, and he did not deliver in my opinion. I'm not the first hunter to feel this way and I certainly won't be the last. It's just a dang shame, that's all.

Darren
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Well you have a more forgiving attitude than many would have had. Red flags like equipment not working, guides unfamiliar with bow hunting and even the area would have had many guys either demanding their money back or being paired with someone else more familiar with what you guys were promised.

Like 421 said it was more like a hike in the wilderness than a bow hunt for moose and a real shame that something you had been planning for 18 months turned out to be something the outfitter apparently only spent 18 minutes planning.
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thanks for sharing, it was a good read. Bummer that you guys didn't have ANY close encounters at all, except fhe night fall encounter.
Thanks for sharing.I would recommend you leave an honest review on all hunting forums. They failed to tell you the guides didn’t know squat. It would save someone a lot of hardship if they were to read your reviews.
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I'd ask for at least a partial refund.
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Sorry you guys didn't connect.
Sorry the hunt didn't live up to expectations Darren. I'm not surprised you made the best of it.
I'd ask for at least a partial refund.
Think I'd be raising [email protected] about it, don't sound like the guides had even been to the area. So they were getting paid to learn it and you was payin for a nature hike. Sorry it didn;t work out I'm sure it happens to lots of hunters every year, happened to a buddy of mine on a elk hunt last year and he did get a partial refund. Some great scenery and pictures. A good hunt with a buddy is priceless and sounds like he needed it, probably worth the cost.
Very unfortunate. That’s an expensive lesson to learn. Did you contact the outfitters and give them some feedback? Too late to do anything about your hunt, but might help the next archery client by letting the outfitter know your thoughts.
I emailed Mike Hawkridge, the owner of BCO, as soon as I got back and told him how we felt about the whole thing. Since he rarely responded to me before we went on the hunt, I'm sure that I will hear nothing from him after the fact. And since he is a gazillion miles away, and in a different country, I have little recourse but to warn folks about using his services. Continuing to be upset about our treatment would accomplish nothing but giving me heartburn.

Darren
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Yep nothing you can do now. Rarely responding to you would be a big red flag to me.
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Ya get any fishing in???
Ya get any fishing in???
The lake we were on was full of rainbow trout and squaw fish. My buddy, Bret, fished one day but I never did. He caught a few squaw fish.

Darren
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Still beats work'n..... Sorry to hear you had a less than stellar experience.

Picking a guide, when you don't know anyone who has ever hunted with them is always a crap shoot. Find one you like and trust, don't tell anyone and keep going back. :D

At least you can now cross these guys off the list. I'd also make sure all your stick bow hunting buddies know to steer clear. Sounds like they do a good job of getting it done with a rifle, but longbows is a completely different game.
So, did the guides get/earn a tip?
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