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Discussion in 'Muzzleloaders' started by dhaverstick, Mar 26, 2018.
I don't buy that at all, just like areas where does don't get bred
What makes you think hens arent getting bred??
Everything is a turkey thread . Lol
no sheetz, this was a good opportunity to rehash the deer debate and see if anyone changed their opinions!!
Modern inlines can easily compete with a 45/70 and similar caliber center fires. Mine can launch a 275gr bullet 2400fps+ with no problem. Some of the new high BC 45cal bullets extend the effective range even more.
Just for comparison Hornady's 45/70 325gr FTX ammo is rated at 2050fps
You dont even need a custom rig like mine. My basically stock Knight 45cal will easily shoot a 300gr (.230ish BC)bullet over 2000fps and it will do it with extreme accuracy. The only modification that rifle has is a bare primer breach plug upgrade.
Very similar rifles have shot some amazing groups at 300 yards and beyond at Friendship using the same powder limitations.
Back in my Iowa days we had an early muzzle loader season, normally mid October during archery. If you hunted this season which was a draw you couldn't hunt the late season which allowed pistols. I can't say my archery season was ever ruined by a muzzle loader hunter.
You can get modern Muzzleloaders that'll shoot acurately past 300 yds now a days.....
The whole term "muzzleloader" doesn't mean what it used to mean.
For a mere $5500 you can get one of these... Shoot critters out to 500 yds or so.
Why spend over $5000 when a Rem700 SS single shot action is only about $500 and a Brux 45cal barrel will only run you about another $500 (contoured and threaded for breach plug) or around $800 for a RemAge style with breach plug. You can build that sucker for less than half the cost.
My NULA was only $1800 last time Melvin was selling them. My Savage Pacnor 45 cost me $900 and will break 2800fps with a 200gr bullet easily. A 275gr over 2600fps without breaking a sweat.
A new Remington Ultimate bone stock will shoot a 250gr bullet in the 2400fps range. They can be found for well under $900 and its a true CF action. Easily upgraded later to a sabotless 45cal.
For $5000+ you can have a true custom shooting 300gr bullets over 2800fps
The $5500 ML suggestion was sort of in jest....
I can shoot deer as far out as I need to with my bargain barn T/C Encore. $500 total in the whole package.
Once you go sabotless 45cal them sabots are funny. Ever since they showed up at Friendship not a single one has come close to winning. Even Ultimate Firearms previous winning shooters are getting spanked silly by Knights that cost less than half as much.
BTW i gave a measly $550 for my NULA with a Douglas Premium XX barrel. Weighs about 5lbs bare and around 7lbs ready to hunt. Its the only 50cal sabot shooter i still really like because its just so nice to carry. Plus its just crazy accurate.
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