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These are not your normal muzzleloaders!!!
They are Rem 700 and Savage upgrades. Custom bullets that get sized in press
and can shoot smokeless or black powder.
Scroll down far enough to see the super tiny group.... all it takes is money.

 

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There was a period on the front I suspect that was fouling up the link.
 

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Been doing that for YEARS like since 2011. :D Ive had my custom Savage MLII converted to 45cal 1-22 since then. 275gr bullet at over 2600fps is simple.

Another vendor is ArrowHead Rifles. Luke is a pretty good guy too.

If you can spin a barrel on any Savage/Stevens center fire with a barrel nut you can make one using the prefits. Same for Remage barrels. The conversion is mostly straight forward. Them prefits and Remage barrels are not made for the really BIG BOOMERs though. You need full shank barrels for that. They can still get to around 2800fps though.
 

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Been doing that for YEARS like since 2011. :D Ive had my custom Savage MLII converted to 45cal 1-22 since then. 275gr bullet at over 2600fps is simple.

Another vendor is ArrowHead Rifles. Luke is a pretty good guy too.

If you can spin a barrel on any Savage/Stevens center fire with a barrel nut you can make one using the prefits. Same for Remage barrels. The conversion is mostly straight forward. Them prefits and Remage barrels are not made for the really BIG BOOMERs though. You need full shank barrels for that. They can still get to around 2800fps though.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! My wife has homeschooled all of our kids. They are going to get a big kick out of his bio at the website you listed above.

LUKE HORAK (OWNER):

I’ve been a hunting and shooting fanatic as long as I can remember. I was home schooled through high school. My brother and I could usually wear our mom down in 2-3 hours tops and get kicked out of the house for the rest of the day which meant lots of time for hunting, trapping, and fishing. In my very early hunting years (probably around 10) my younger brother and I would go on frequent all day sparrow safaris at the neighbor’s dairy farm. From there I graduated to squirrels, rabbits, and pheasants. I have a lot of wonderful memories of chasing Iowa roosters with my dad and brothers. In high school, I began hunting Iowa Whitetails which have been my primary pursuit for the last 15+ years.
 

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I bought my first 45cal smokeless from him. Its a somewhat heavy contour Pacnor super match grade 45 1-22 twist in a Savage MLII action. That was the gold standard back then but i dont think Pacnor is fully up and running again. They had a fire and lots of guys switched to Brux which is also a better barrel. They also use Preferred barrel now. I think that is the same as a MGM blank but not certain. Its a 5r barrel and the Brux is a 6r. Brux is also cut rifled. I think the Preferred is button rifled.
 

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I have a Savage MLII, stainless, laminate stock. What's that thing worth now? I know they've been getting pricey.

I bought my first 45cal smokeless from him. Its a somewhat heavy contour Pacnor super match grade 45 1-22 twist in a Savage MLII action. That was the gold standard back then but i dont think Pacnor is fully up and running again. They had a fire and lots of guys switched to Brux which is also a better barrel. They also use Preferred barrel now. I think that is the same as a MGM blank but not certain. Its a 5r barrel and the Brux is a 6r. Brux is also cut rifled. I think the Preferred is button rifled.
 

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I have a Savage MLII, stainless, laminate stock. What's that thing worth now? I know they've been getting pricey.
Ive seen them sell for crazy high amounts in the past but now with other rifles out there like the Paramount and RemUML they have dropped a bit. Guys are not buying them up to convert to 45s anymore. At least $750 and maybe $1000 to the right buyer. That is assuming great condition, large shank and the 4.4" stock spacing. The 4.27 spacing greatly limits other stock options and the large shank is a bit stronger.
 

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I'll stick with my KRB7 Knight with all factory stuff thank you.
Measuring instrument Gauge Font Gas Temperature
A bit of experimenting with different powder measurments most MLers can get tight groups at 100 yards. I wouldn't want to shoot any farther distances on my place but I'm sure a 200 yard shot is possible.
 

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what's the range on that type of ML. ? just wondering
Bolt action SMLs can reach 400 yards and beyond. Even the cheaper 45/70 break action conversions are getting out to 400yards with enough energy left to take deer. The problem is weight and recoil. They weigh a lot and lighter builds can kick like a 458Win Mag or worse.

40cal are gaining ground now. Even a BH209 40cal can get a 225gr bullet moving well over 2500fps. 40s are legal here so if you want less recoil and plenty of 400yard killing power its worth considering. A Fury .401 240gr has a claimed BC of .360. Run that through a ballistics calculator. Pretty easy to get a bullet like that moving fast in a smokeless custom build. Not hard to get it moving about 2300fps with BH209 too. That is about what you would get with a 240gr and 120grV in a sabotless 40cal.

RangeVelocityEnergyTrajectoryCome Up (MOA)Come Up (MILS)Wind DriftWind Drift (MOA)Wind Drift (MILS)
023002819.0-1.50.00.0000
5021892553.00.9-1.7-0.5000
10020812308.01.5-1.4-0.4000
15019762081.00.00.00.0000
20018751873.0-3.71.70.5000
25017771683.0-9.83.71.1000
30016831510.0-18.75.91.7000
35015931353.0-30.78.42.4000
40015081212.0-46.111.03.2000
 

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I was talking today with a guy who was out shooting with some guys last week, and one had a 1886 45-90 and he thought the other was a sharps 45-90. He said they were shooting out to 800 yards. One had a scope that was blue toothed to a spotting scope so they could see how far off they were and adjust accordingly, buddy was in awe...
 

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I was talking today with a guy who was out shooting with some guys last week, and one had a 1886 45-90 and he thought the other was a sharps 45-90. He said they were shooting out to 800 yards. One had a scope that was blue toothed to a spotting scope so they could see how far off they were and adjust accordingly, buddy was in awe...
Sure can if you dont mind the rainbow. Look at the chart i posted. Sighted in at 150 you are point and shoot to 200. I shoot big lead in my 45s and luv it. 460gr-488gr lead conical at 1400fps is basically a 45-100. Just 80gr of BH209 gets you there and that load will kill anything on hooves out to 300 yards or more. You measure drop in FEET though instead of inches. ;)

RangeVelocityEnergyTrajectoryCome Up (MOA)Come Up (MILS)Wind DriftWind Drift (MOA)Wind Drift (MILS)
014002002.0-1.50.00.0000
5013101754.04.3-8.2-2.4000
10012311547.05.0-4.8-1.4000
15011621379.00.00.00.0000
20011041246.0-11.45.51.6000
25010561140.0-30.011.53.3000
30010161055.0-56.417.95.2000
350982985.0-91.124.97.2000
400952926.0-134.932.29.4000
 
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