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Discussion in 'Predators' started by 76_michael, Feb 11, 2018.
No long thick tail...?
Lion. Bobcats are smaller than that. Could be a young one.
There is definitely a mountain lion around pecks ranch. We got it on trail camera in 2014 and 2015. MDC got pictures of one eating an elk later on in the same area. That cat is listed on the MDC confirmed sightings. There are also at least a couple bear in the area that have been collared.
I think they have an elk kill down there that is a confirmed mt lion kill.
I think they are up to about 70 confirmations. Yes they did have a confirmed elk kill. I was thinking a member on here calculated the lion was eating a $2000 an ounce elk steak.
A few cougars in the state don't bother me as much as the thought of wolves/coywolves becoming reintroduced.(they drop them out of black helicopters) And, yes I think I have seen 1 of those too. It paralled me at about 10 mph on my 4 wheeler. It was about 15 yards away, and kept running along side me giving me the evil eye for about 100 yards before it finally started to angle away from me. What stuck in my mind was that the front legs from the wrist joint down looked really long, like a person holding their hands down limp wristed, while it was loping effortlessly along. Of course it looked huge, but I have never seen a coyote not take off like its tail was on fire when it sees a four wheeler/ truck/ tractor in my part of the world. I was actually worried it was gonna try to take me, so my strategy was to make a huge circle to the far end of the field and then come back to the crossing that was only way out of the field.
Aren't they up to about a dozen wolf confirmations in MO, and one of those was a female?
I believe one was confirmed as a lion kill within the ranch. Another was a few miles away. Not sure if it was a lion kill but they did get photos of a lion eating on the dead elk.
They do, heck the county commissioner of Reynolds County live trapped one in a hog trap and hauled it to the courthouse. It was a 135 pound male, MDC took possession of it and released it down on the Current River. There is a short you-tube video of that lion in the trap in the truck bed parked in Centerville.
Mountain Lions in Missouri aren't a surprise any more. There are over 70 confirmed sightings since 1994 and the MDC has stated the big cats may be undergoing a recolonization period currently. So it's not a complete surprise when a lion turns up. Missouri has mountain lions, they're here and while not common, it isn't a show stopper when a lion is documented. The MDC has really good information on their website about lions along with a map detailing the documented sightings. To me the thing is, some folks think every cat, every shadow, swinging grape vine, ect. they see is a lion. There are some ridiculous stories told of "panther" sightings. It reminds me of the Bigfoot hunters. They're always seeing, hearing and discovering Bigfoot... except they don't. Missouri actually has lions, however they aren't so common as to be behind every third large rock.
Three... all from the Upper Midwest wolf packs.
this is what I was referencing!
I looked back and came up with 4, Wayne, Howard, Carrol, and Grundy county. The dozen or so that I had in my head I think were including KS, MO, IL, and IN.
Anyway I would bet $100 the Feds(or private wackos) are helping them travel. Way to many out there who want them to return to all 48 states.
still hoping a report will come soon
Not sure if it’s true or not but heard a mountain lion makes one kill a week for food. That could make a dent in a local deer population. Hopefully they prefer pork over venison.
A study that surprised a lot of people, but makes 100% sense when you think about it, found that cougars preyed on fawns exclusively for about a 9 month period. Common sense, easy meal and much less chance of injury than taking on full grown deer.
This was a GPS study done out west in a high CWD area. They were hoping to show that the cats preyed heavily on weak CWD deer, but if I remember correctly they preyed on zero deer with signs of CWD. Just like for us humans it is easier to kill a young dumb deer than an old mature smart one.
I also would bet that just like you and me they prefer a tender meal. I have also always questioned the mantra of predators preying on the sick. Yes, if they are super hungry, but if they aren't starving I would bet that a seriously sick animal has a smell that says don't eat if you want to stay healthy yourself.
probably a cougar
In 2004 my wife and I went to Branson for our anniversary and stayed in a motel just past Silver Dollar City road where you turn into the park. About a mile or so past the park entrance the road went down to a point on the lake and camping area and docks.
I get up much earlier than my wife and slipped out to go get a cup of coffee. It was about 6:30am and I was slowly driving watching to see some deer just off the right side.
The lion I saw was slowly crouching and stalking some deer across the road. I stopped and watched about 40 yds away and watched it unfold. There was no mistaking it for a bobcat. This thing was a mountain lion 100%. Zero question in my mind.
I told the guy running the store what I had just seen and he said I wasn't the first person who had seen one down there. That peninsula was loaded with deer. A very cool open area encounter.
Another one of MDC's gay mountain lions, check the prints to see if the are hand width.