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Regulations Committee Update

Sadly the Senate is done with this. They passed the bill and sent to the House. We need to really get on our respective Representatives and hope they vote against this bill. The House version of the bill is HB 2031. It is identical to SB964.
Regulations Committee Update

The Regulations Committee met Monday, April 28, 2014 and approved presenting the Director and Conservation Commission with proposed amendments to regulations pertaining to captive cervid facilities. Once approved by the Regulations Committee, recommendations are submitted through the Director to the Conservation Commission for approval. The Commission may approve, veto, or table the recommendations.
Recommendations approved by the Conservation Commission are filed with the Missouri Secretary of State for publication in the Missouri Register. Once published, there is a 30-day public comment period. If comments are received, they are compiled and shared with the Conservation Commission. During a regularly scheduled meeting, they will conduct a vote to approve the final Order of Rulemaking as written, with changes, or they may withdraw the rule based on input from citizens.
Proposed amendments to regulations discussed at the meeting on Monday, April 28, 2014 included new fencing standards, closing Missouri's borders to importation of wild cervids, mandatory enrollment of all captive herds in a USDA-approved Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) herd certification program, and testing all deer that die in captivity of age six months and older.
For more information click on http://mdc.mo.gov/node/17901.
 

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Making an unwise move Senate vote on captive cervids an embarrassment for Missouri

Driftwood Outdoors: Making an unwise move Senate vote on captive cervids an embarrassment for Missouri

Brandon Butler, outdoors columnist, [email protected]
Sunday, May 4, 2014

As states across the country increase regulations on captive cervid facilities in efforts to curb the spread of deadly wildlife diseases, specifically Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD), your Missouri Senate has voted to transfer the control of captive cervids from the Department of Conservation to the Department of Agriculture under the precise premise of relaxing captive cervid control.

Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is an always fatal disease that eats away the brain of a deer. Here are some facts to consider. In 2013, there were 1,277,791 resident deer hunting licenses issued in Missouri. Those licenses generated $9,050,694. There were also 39,792 non-resident deer hunting licenses issued in 2013, which generated another $5,965,736. In 2013, Missouri public deer hunting licenses generated $15,016,430.

That’s a lot of money, but it’s a drop in the bucket when it comes to the total amount of money hunters spend annually on the pursuit of wildlife. A 2011 survey by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service reported that in Missouri, hunters spent $1.6 billion on equipment, licenses, trips and more. Yes, billion, with a “B.†Nationwide hunters spent $38.3 billion. With a little simple math, you can see, Missouri is a leading state in hunting related expenditures.

Yet, 23 of your state Senators chose to ignore those numbers. They chose to ignore the public deer hunters, the Missourians who accounted for 1,317,583 deer permits in 2013. Instead, they were influenced by and voted for the captive deer breeding and high fenced hunting lobby. There are 39 high fenced hunting facilities currently permitted in Missouri and just over 200 deer breeders. This tiny industry lobbied incredibly hard, even treating legislators to a venison dinner at the Capitol. It worked. The masses were ignored.

Senator Mike Parson recently released a newsletter that acknowledges the Senate’s vote on the captive deer transfer. The senator wrote, “With guided hunts on private reserves becoming a growing segment of the tourism industry, Missouri could become a leader in this field.â€

Senator Parson’s attempt at putting a positive spin on our state becoming a leader of killing deer behind a fence is misguided at best. What about the fact that we are already a leader in economic revenue generate by the pursuit of wild whitetails? What about the motels across rural Missouri that are booked every night through the month of November? What about the sleepy little restaurants that are jam-packed during opening weekend of deer season? What about the gas stations, sporting goods stores, grocery stores, hardware stores and all the other rural community businesses that benefit from the economic boom of deer season? How does a minute smattering of private high fenced deer hunting facilities benefit rural business owners, their employees and local economies? The answer is they don’t.

And as these facilities haul disease into our state, our wild deer population will become less and less valuable. No one wants to kill and eat a diseased deer, so public hunters, both resident and non-resident, will begin to disappear. But hey, at least Missouri will be a leader in providing a tiny population of rich folks the opportunity to shoot genetically mutated, giant bucks behind a fence.

Senator Parson wrote, “Even though the breeding and raising of captive deer is a growing industry, the Department of Conservation has made no secret they would like to put those producers out of business.â€

The MDC recently announced their plans for new regulations on captive facilities. Actually, these regulations stop short of what some Missourians deem necessary for controlling the spread of CWD.

Even though double fencing these captive facilities is the only way to keep captive animals from spreading disease to wild deer contacted through a single fence, the new MDC regulations “grandfather†in existing high fence facilities, so those properties don’t have to double fence until they are sold to the next permit holder. New facilities do have to double fence.

The new regulations would ban the importation of captive cervids into Missouri, thus ending the legal transfer of deadly diseases, like CWD, into our state. The regulations still allow for instate transfer and say nothing about stopping the breeding or killing of captive deer.

The regulations also call for testing of all mortality on these facilities. Every deer that dies needs to be tested for disease. This is necessary to find out if the captive herd is diseased.

How these regulations imply, “the Department of Conservation has made no secret they would like to put those producers out of business,†is beyond my understanding.

Senator Parson wrote, “Captive elk are already classified as livestock in Missouri. It only makes sense to do the same for deer and let the industry continue to create jobs and markets for another superior Missouri agricultural product.â€

The reason elk are classified as livestock in Missouri is because until a few years ago, there were no wild elk in Missouri, so those in captivity were considered an exotic species. Now that elk are once again a wildlife species in Missouri, as nature always intended, it is time to reclassify them as wildlife and transfer control to the Department of Conservation, who was granted, by the people, the constitutional responsibility of protecting and managing all wildlife in Missouri, including those living behind a fence.

And, the Department of Agriculture testified in a Senate hearing that they do not want control of captive cervids transferred to them. They gave the same testimony in a House hearing. MDC wants to keep control, Ag doesn’t want it, yet your Senate voted to force the transfer.

“Likely†thanks to a high fenced hunting ranch in Macon County (it can’t officially be proven Missouri’s CWD outbreak originated there), Chronic Wasting Disease has already made its way into our 1.5 million wild whitetails. Now, Missouri must do all we can to stop the spread of this deadly disease. If we don’t act now, future generations won’t have the chance to hunt deer in Missouri the way you. Relaxing the regulations on these facilities is counterintuitive to efforts across the country. There are 23 states that have already closed their borders, and some of those are not even CWD positive. Missouri is, yet our Senate voted to relax regulations.

Senators Chappelle-Nadal, Dempsey, Justus, Keaveny, Pearce, Schmitt, Sifton, Silvey and Walsh voted against the bill. They stood against the majority. They should be commended for their vote in favor of the conservationists, public hunters and wildlife of Missouri. If you don’t see your senator’s name, well, then you know how they voted.

This legislation has passed the Senate, but now it must pass the House before going before the Governor. There is still time to stop this atrocity. If you are opposed to this legislation, then as a citizen, you have the right contact your state representative and let them know you are opposed to House Bill 2031.

For more information on Chronic Wasting Disease in Missouri, visit www.NoMoCWD.org.

See you down the trail…

Brandon Butler can be reached at [email protected].

http://www.newstribune.com/news/2014/may/04/driftwood-outdoors-making-unwise-move/

what about elk and cwd ???

Thursday, May 01, 2014

Missouri DNR CWD prevention and captive cervid farming Update

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/05/missouri-dnr-cwd-prevention-and-captive.html

Singeltary submission ;

Program Standards: Chronic Wasting Disease Herd Certification Program and Interstate Movement of Farmed or Captive Deer, Elk, and Moose
*** DOCUMENT ID: APHIS-2006-0118-0411

http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=APHIS-2006-0118-0411
http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/03/docket-no-00-108-10-chronic-wasting.html

kind regards, terry
 

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Thank you so much for contacting my office in regards to HB 2031. I am very disappointed with what's really going on with this bill. The deer breeders have hired lobbyists to help them pass this legislation that the Dept of Agriculture and the Dept of Conservation don't even want!! I have been one of the most vocal people in opposition to this issue because it's not right. The deer breeders are looking for a "break" but it's not going to happen if I have anything to do with it. We only have 2 weeks left in session so we will have to wait and see what the majority party wants to do with this bill. I will be very upset if they choose a select few people over 520,000+ hunters. Thanks again for emailing me, this has been an issue that I have worked harder on than anything else. I am doing everything I can to stop this. Take care
 

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We need more TJ McKenna's. This shows writing to them helps. Let's all join and let our Reps know "we want our voices heard!" If you have never done this, it is easy. Go to Google, search for Mo. General Assembly, open the House link and follow the procedure to type in who you are to find your Rep. His or her email will be there and easy to use.
 

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I sent another one to my rep. I have yet to get a response to a single one of the other two or three I have sent him.

I will also be watching to see how he votes.
 

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I sent another one to my rep. I have yet to get a response to a single one of the other two or three I have sent him.

I will also be watching to see how he votes.
Same here. I emailed mine and all of them in the surrounding districts. I told them all I would be letting my friends and family know how all of them vote.
I haven't gotten a response from any of them except Tim Jones, the House Speaker. He didn't respond but somebody from his office did and she indicated that they did not think the bill would get anywhere in time to be voted on.
I am pretty disappointed that my rep hasn't responded, especially since he is running for state senate now.
 

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I am in receipt of an email from a Rep. Looks like HB2031 will not make it this session. Good news. NOW the bad news. An ag bill that almost all want to pass NOW SB591 and is highly probable, from what I understand, that it will be passed this session. So guess what they did. The Senate has attached an amendment to 591 that defines deer as LIVESTOCK. This way it can hide it in a bill that everyone wants to pass. I will have more on this on Wednesday. Right now it looks like the thing to do is to let them know we expect and add an amendment to SB591 to exclude deer from this bill. When I get the details I will start a new thread.
 

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This is bs. They always try hiding bills in something that is sure to pass. Nothing is 'clean' in the capitol.
And if you want a response actually write a letter, don't email. They have to write you back then not a bs email reply.
 

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This is bs. They always try hiding bills in something that is sure to pass. Nothing is 'clean' in the capitol.
And if you want a response actually write a letter, don't email. They have to write you back then not a bs email reply.
this is political science at it's finest folks $$$

again, once it's livestock, all the sound science is off the table $$$

Monday, May 05, 2014

Member Country details for listing OIE CWD 2013 against the criteria of Article 1.2.2., the Code Commission recommends consideration for listing

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/05/member-country-details-for-listing-oie.html

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Let's say they do win this and they are considered live stock,then could we as hunters counter sue for misrepresenting hunting or something.That way they would have to advertise their deer as livestock when selling hunts and non-wild animals.Basically to hurt their pockets by hitting people with the reality they are going to shoot a non wild animals.Something has to be against the law about selling hunts for an animal considered livestock.
 

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Interesting thought. Who knows? See my new post on SNEAKY, SNEAKY and the update from killmode on bills we need to get all over and do so now.
 

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Yeah the bad problem is if they have padded the right pockets it doesn't matter what we do.All we can do now is figure out a way to get someone to take on this word "livestock" and make it hurt them in the end.The circle of money is crazy,there is no such thing as democracy,democracy is Indian word for "He who has most money gets whatever he wants"
 

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Yeah the bad problem is if they have padded the right pockets it doesn't matter what we do.All we can do now is figure out a way to get someone to take on this word "livestock" and make it hurt them in the end.The circle of money is crazy,there is no such thing as democracy,democracy is Indian word for "He who has most money gets whatever he wants"
no offense antlercrazed but the change from wildlife to livestock wording only takes the MDC out of the loop as far as regulating the pens, transporting and requiring testing. It would put the sole oversight in the hands of the Dept of Ag who does not want it.Nothing else really changes. As far as the "hunts" what they call them isn't really a factor,,

The only way to stop this is to contact your legislator and let him or her know that we deer hunters and landowners are paying attention and we need their support in stopping this.
 

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IMO, the thing to do is start formulating plan b and figure out a way to get MDA to regulate. This thing is going to go through one way or the other.
 

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IMO, the thing to do is start formulating plan b and figure out a way to get MDA to regulate. This thing is going to go through one way or the other.
Good plan since mda already handles the disease testing and we all know how well that is working.
 

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If this happens its all right here in our house as hunters and landowners and supposedly conservation minded people. While Rome burns, we fiddle, fight each other, and fail to support the MDC when they need the support.
 

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the plan would be to not just throw in the towel. Once its changed, its gonna be tough to change it back. If they are livestock the MDC has no say.
I know, but just because you keep putting sand bags around the house doesnt mean you shouldnt be moving the valuables out as well. Im just saying, knowing politics, Id say plan b needs to be being made NOW. IF its on the ag bill and it already has a decent amount of support in the house, its more than likely going thru whether we all picket the house or not. Im not saying to throw in the towel at all...
 

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no offense antlercrazed but the change from wildlife to livestock wording only takes the MDC out of the loop as far as regulating the pens, transporting and requiring testing. It would put the sole oversight in the hands of the Dept of Ag who does not want it.Nothing else really changes. As far as the "hunts" what they call them isn't really a factor,,

The only way to stop this is to contact your legislator and let him or her know that we deer hunters and landowners are paying attention and we need their support in stopping this.
Once they are classified as livestock they fall under and must follow the laws of the department of agriculture,even if the department of agriculture doesn't want it,it still does not mean they don't have to obey laws.Which is why we should figure out a way to hurt them.There are lots of laws on transporting livestock,marketing livestock,and they even mention Whitetails deer and elk in their laws already.Selling hunts falls into marketing,transporting is self explanatory,and they still have to obey laws and if we can't prevent the bill from passing we need to find some kind of way to hurt them with laws.
 

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Good plan since mda already handles the disease testing and we all know how well that is working.
So you think its wise to just wait and pray that the house doesnt get the votes to pass an ag bill with no back up plan??
 
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