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Just like the NSA was not collecting data on all of us....Love the name "counter-disinformation". I am glad they are all looking out for me so I do not receive text or see any disinformation online. Maybe if they fought the disinformation about all the crazy diet fads and eating trends that have led to one of the most obese nations our death rate could have been significantly reduced. This is really becoming unbelievable the amount of censorship people are ok with.

DNC spokesman Lucas Acosta said the DNC "has no ability to access or read people’s private text messages, and we are not working with any government agency, including the White House, to try to see personal text messages.

"However, when the DNC's counter-disinformation program receives complaints or reports of fraudulent broadcast SMSs that we believe violate the text aggregators’ terms of service, we notify the broadcast text platform," Acosta added.
 

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The Pfizer vaccine has already said that the spike protein in the vaccine is a antigen in the body and collecting in peoples organs.
Do you have a link as I could not find it on Pfizer's web site
 

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Jen Psaki admitted yesterday that the Federal Government is flagging post for Facebook that they identify as misinformation.


That is Scary!

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And if that can be documented, Trump will win his lawsuit against the Tech companies, because theyre no longer acting as a private business.
 

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Now the dangerous pandemic is people not being vaccinated. Unvaccinated people are being made to like outcasts, idiots, guilty etc.
7 of Alinskys rules for radicals is being followed to a TEE by the government and media.

  1. "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
  2. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.
  3. "Keep the pressure on."
  4. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. "
  5. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
  6. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."
  7. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. "
 

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Do you have a link as I could not find it on Pfizer's web site

I did find this


CLAIM: COVID-19 vaccines make people produce a spike protein that is a toxin and can spread to other parts of the body and damage organs.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. COVID-19 vaccines instruct the body to produce spike proteins that teach the immune system to combat the spikes on the coronavirus, and experts say these proteins are not toxic.

THE FACTS: A recent radio interview with an Ontario professor is being shared widely online to mislead social media users about COVID-19 vaccines.

In an episode that aired in May, Canadian radio host Alex Pierson interviewed Dr. Byram Bridle, an associate professor in viral immunology at the University of Guelph’s Ontario Veterinary College, about whether the vaccine was safe for children.

On the show, Bridle says that he is pro-vaccine, but goes on to discuss a fringe theory that the spike protein that the body produces from the vaccine is toxic and can damage certain organs.

“We made a big mistake. We didn’t realize it until now, we thought the spike protein was a great target antigen. We never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein so by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin,” he says.

Though Bridle used the term “we” there is no indication that he was involved in any way in developing COVID-19 vaccines. Other scientists refute Bridle’s characterization of the spike protein.

“The spike protein is immunogenic, meaning it causes an immune response, but it is not a toxin,” said William Matchett, a vaccine researcher at the University of Minnesota Medical School.

All the vaccines that received emergency use authorization in the U.S. do not contain actual spike protein from COVID-19 or the live COVID-19 virus. The spike proteins that coat the coronavirus allow the virus to easily infect the human cell and replicate. However, the vaccine works by teaching the immune system to fight off the spike protein in the body and get rid of it.

Dr. Dan Kaul, an infectious disease expert at the University of Michigan, said that the vaccines have been proven safe and effective through clinical trials and the millions of people who have so far received the vaccines in the U.S.

“In terms of the spike protein itself being pathogenic in some way that’s just simply not true,” he said in response to Bridle’s claims.

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines rely on messenger RNA, often referred to as mRNA, that delivers a set of instructions to create that spike protein so your body can learn to identify and fight off the virus. The Johnson & Johnson is a vaccine that carries its genetic instructions for the spike protein through a modified adenovirus.

Posts online shared quotes of Bridle’s interview to further push the false narrative that COVID-19 vaccines are dangerous and attack the body.

In the interview, Bridle says that the spike proteins generated by the vaccines don’t stay in the shoulder muscle, but spread and are “causing so much damage in other parts of the bodies of the vaccinated.” But Dr. Adam Ratner, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at NYU Langone Health, said that vaccines are mostly concentrated at the site of injection or the local lymph nodes.

“What was said in the radio show was completely inaccurate,” Ratner said. “There is no spike protein in the vaccines first of all. The amounts that are made after the mRNA is injected are very small and it almost exclusively stays locally. It is nowhere near the amount he was talking about.”

In the radio interview, Bridle mentions a study of 13 health care workers that he said confirmed that the spike in protein was found in their blood. But experts say they found nothing of concern from that same study, which was conducted by researchers at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and appeared in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases in May.

Bridle left out key details of the study, which relied on an ultrasensitive detection tool, said Matchett, of University of Minnesota.

“The spike became undetectable by 14 days after the first dose of the vaccine,” Matchett said of the study. “After the second dose, they could not detect the spike protein in the blood of any of the participants because the participants had all generated anti-spike antibodies.”

Bridle also mentioned a Japanese study to support his claims about the spike protein. But the study, which is written in Japanese, does not look at spike proteins from the vaccine, Matchett said.

Bridle did not respond to requests for comment from The Associated Press. An auto-reply email from his account said that a more comprehensive report on his comments would soon be published.

“My answer to the question posed by the host was objective and founded on multiple reliable scientific sources,” he said in the auto-reply.
 

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Hitler did what he did under cloak of misinformation (or no information at all).

It'd be a lot tougher given the free flow of information these days. There is censorship and filtering of what we know but like minded people are much more connected today than back then.

Still a possibility tho, it would just be a LOT tougher with a public that is so well armed. The people in Hitlers Germany, Poland, etc were very much unarmed and extremely vulnerable. Those people were unarmed and pushovers. He wasnt stopped until Churchhill came to his sense and agreed to an allied resistance, which FDR was urging from the outset.
I am just saying that if you have ultra rich elitists that want to save the planet today we also have much greater tools and knowledge to decimate the population.
In Hitler's day it was bombs and force. Today any given wacko/government with knowledge could "small pox in a blanket" entire countries.
Every new branch on the tree of knowledge we explore, opens up more and more branches to explore.
 

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Looks like it's safer to not get the jab across the pond
 

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Looks like it's safer to not get the jab across the pond
that headline is so misleading ,,,, 3rd paragraph down

PHE data suggests that being double vaccinated reduces the risk of being hospitalized with the now-dominant delta variant by around 96%. Even conservatively assuming the vaccines are no more effective at preventing death than hospitalization (actually they are likely to be more effective at preventing death) this means the risk of death for double vaccinated people has been cut to less than one-twentieth of the value for unvaccinated people with the same underlying risk profile.
 

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that headline is so misleading ,,,, 3rd paragraph down

PHE data suggests that being double vaccinated reduces the risk of being hospitalized with the now-dominant delta variant by around 96%. Even conservatively assuming the vaccines are no more effective at preventing death than hospitalization (actually they are likely to be more effective at preventing death) this means the risk of death for double vaccinated people has been cut to less than one-twentieth of the value for unvaccinated people with the same underlying risk profile.
There you go! You my friend have enough sense to think for yourself and not believe everything the media telling you.
 

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There you go! You my friend have enough sense to think for yourself and not believe everything the media telling you.
actually that is a pretty good read, it says us old guys(me) has 5 times the chance of dying from covid then a 30 year old.

Had to read some of it twice and real slow to figure out what the guy was saying...
 

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Yes, but you did read it and read it again so that you understand it. Instead of just catching the headline or a few seconds of the news and believing it to be the gospel.
 

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Yes, but you did read it and read it again so that you understand it. Instead of just catching the headline or a few seconds of the news and believing it to be the gospel.
did you read my post?
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"Had to read some of it twice and real slow to figure out what the guy was saying... "
 

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I have 5 family members that were fully vaxxed and they all caught covid in the past 2 weeks one is hospitalized. The people who were in contact with them also caught it 2 of them were vaxxed. I know of another family in my small town that also the whole family has caught it from grandparents all the way down to grandkids. All vaxxed except a 4yr old. All of this has happened in the last 2 weeks. I just figure some of you guys may like to know this information.
 

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Several months ago we started hearing of people getting Covid around here and I said to someone’s brother that had it that I figured if he hadn’t had it by now he was immune to it. His brother told me he didn’t get it until he was vaccinated and that went along with the others they didn’t get it until the vaccination shots. I’m all for vaccines especially cattle and pets but I’m holding off on the Covid vaccine until the FDA approves it.
 

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I am just saying that if you have ultra rich elitists that want to save the planet today we also have much greater tools and knowledge to decimate the population.
In Hitler's day it was bombs and force. Today any given wacko/government with knowledge could "small pox in a blanket" entire countries.
Every new branch on the tree of knowledge we explore, opens up more and more branches to explore.
I wasnt disagreeing with you so dont take my comment the wrong way. :)

Bottom line on this stuff… let people get the vaccine or stay off their backs. Not all unvaccinated people are being unsafe. I chose not to get it but that doesnt mean my hygiene is all of the sudden unsafe. And certainly dont require me to get a shot in order to keep earning a paycheck.
 
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actually that is a pretty good read, it says us old guys(me) has 5 times the chance of dying from covid then a 30 year old.

Had to read some of it twice and real slow to figure out what the guy was saying...
Then by all means, get the shot if it is going to offer you some extra protection. I urged my parents to do exactly that.
Once you are vaccinated, what other people do shouldn’t be any of your concern.

The argument against freedom of choice on covid vaccinations is that you are suddenly typhoid Mary, running around sneezing and coughing on people killing them. Think about this though…
1. People urging the vaccines for this reason should have a goal of 100% vaccination by that reasoning. Otherwise, there will always be a segment of society that will be unvaccinated. That ain gwannna happen…
2. Expecting 100% of a FREE society to do ANYTHING in unison is absolute craziness. Anyone with delusions of that happening need to move to communist China where they actually do force people in their society to conform. Lotta fun over there from what I hear. Or you could move to Cuba, where people are waving American flags trying to get the he ll out of there.
3. The US government and state lawmakers have tried to legislate all kinds of compliance for risky behavior that could result in harm/injury/death to another person, like forever. You get arrested if you drink and drive, you get arrested if you sell illegal narcotics, you get arrested if you shoot someone else, on and on. Has that somehow magically stopped all that behavior? People are dumb. They are going to drink and drive, sell dope etc. Legislation against that behavior isnt going to stop it and expecting it to is dumb. Gun control is my favorite example… in fact, places with the most strict gun laws often times have the most gun violence…. And the politicians end up being surprised that criminals dont hand over their guns.
 

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I have 5 family members that were fully vaxxed and they all caught covid in the past 2 weeks one is hospitalized. The people who were in contact with them also caught it 2 of them were vaxxed. I know of another family in my small town that also the whole family has caught it from grandparents all the way down to grandkids. All vaxxed except a 4yr old. All of this has happened in the last 2 weeks. I just figure some of you guys may like to know this information.
They say even if you have had the vaccine you can get the Delta Covid. It will not hit most people as hard as the regular covid with out a vaccine. Less deaths and less hospitlizations with the vaccine then without.

Hey Rat, I was vaccinated back in January, I have been going to the gym unmasked since it re-opened last August.
As to your commenting on my comment about older people dying, that was in reference to the article that the other guy posted in which I said the headline was miss leading.
headline says, More vaccinated people are dying then unvaccinated people.
If you read the whole article the writer is comparing unvaccinated people under 30 years old against 70 year and older people who have underlying illnesses or have had only one of 2 shots.

oh and who is Alinsky?
 
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