Mannlicher Schoenauer, and S+W Model 53 22 Jet/22lr

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67Firebird

Discussion Starter · Jun 16, 2019

I know someone who bought a Mannlicher Schoenauer .264 back in the 60s, when he was in Germany, and he's starting research to sell it. He doesn't hunt anymore, and still has the partial first box of ammo for it.

He also has a S+W Model 53 revolver. He said it has a 22lr cylinder, a 22 Jet, and sleeves that go in the Jet cylinder to let it shoot 22lr. He's selling this too.

I'm trying to help him research, so he gets all that he can out of them, so any helpful tips would be appreciated.

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sharps4590

· #2 · Jun 16, 2019

First question is which Mannlicher/Schoenauer or Steyr, 1903, 1950, 1952, ad infinitum? Scoped, not scoped, drilled and tapped for scope, DST's, no DST's, Stutzen stocked or conventional? 264? WHICH 264? 6.5 X 54 Mannlicher/Schoenauer, (most likely), or one of a myriad of other 264/6.5's extant in the 1960's in an Austrian rifle?

I THINK those 53's have become rather desirable but I wouldn't venture a value.

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67Firebird

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 16, 2019

I didn't realize that there were that many variants. He's supposed to send me pics and more info, so I'll post it when I have it. Sorry for posting too soon, but that gives me a better idea what info to get from him.

67Firebird

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 16, 2019

Here's all he's given me so far;

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sharps4590

· #5 · Jun 17, 2019

There's a lot of variance in Mannlicher/Schoenauer/Steyr rifles. Not so much the 1903, '05, '08 and 10, other than the cartridge for which they're chambered. However, get into the later, post war models and things change dramatically.

Apparently your friend has a Steyr, MCA in 264 Win. Mag. By that time in Steyr's history the "Mannlicher/Schoenauer" name had pretty much fallen from use as both men had been dead for a few decades and, the company was always "Steyr", never "Mannlicher/Schoenauer" though the name Ferdinand von Mannlicher will, evidently, forever be associated with the company. It is a good name to be associated with!!

I didn't know any of the Steyr's were chambered to that cartridge but that doesn't mean a lot, there's lots I don't know about them. I THINK the MCA first saw the light of day in 1961. You can go to any of the auction sites and search Steyr MCA or Mannlicher/Schoenauer and you should get plenty of hits as to description, pictures and prices. Look carefully, some earlier Steyr's in less than common cartridges can get pricey but, I don't know if the 264 Win. Mag. is one of them. If it's in decent condition it should have, at worst, respectable value.

The MCA is still early enough in Steyr's post war production that it continues to have the split rear receiver bridge and the Schoenauer, rotary magazine. The split bridge has challenged scope mounts since its inception. The bolt is mid-way on the bolt body which is why the split bridge. It's all a matter of taste but I still prefer the earlier models where the butterknife bolt handle is not so swept back and retains its original, vertical position. I'm about 75% in the market for an early 50's Steyr in 270. I gave my Mod. 70 Featherweight Classic to a dear friend and while I don't NEED to I feel as if I need to replace the 270. Life jut isn't complete without one....

Here's a link to just GI's M/S page.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...s/mannlicher-schoenauer-rifles.c314_p1_o6.cfm

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Mailman

· #6 · Jun 17, 2019

Any more info you can share on the S+W Model 53 revolver? Pic?

67Firebird

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jun 17, 2019

Sharps, thanks for the info.

He seemed eager when he asked for help Saturday, but I haven't gotten any more info from him. He said that he'll send pics and info of both, but none yet.

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67Firebird

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 17, 2019

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I just got some pics of the rifle. He bought it in 1966.

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67Firebird

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jun 17, 2019

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huntinmo

· #10 · Jun 17, 2019

I like it! :cheers:

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bverboy

· #11 · Jun 17, 2019

beautiful.. that's back when they made real rifles... I have one in 270 cal... they just feel sooo good with the spoon bolt and all.…...:rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon:

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wingman

· #12 · Jun 17, 2019

The pics show double triggers.

bverboy

· #13 · Jun 17, 2019

yessir:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

rockchucker

· #14 · Jun 18, 2019

id be interested in both guns. pm the prices when you get them. let me know

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67Firebird

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jun 18, 2019

wingman said:
The pics show double triggers.

Yep, set trigger.

sharps4590

· #16 · Jun 18, 2019

They are fine rifles. As mentioned earlier, nothing made before or since compares to them in smoothness of operation, nothing. You can bet those DST's are every bit as nice as any made in Germany.

67Firebird

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jun 18, 2019

I just heard back from him, and it's all changed.

He's keeping the revolver, and he's going to get a "professional appraisal" on selling price for the rifle, before deciding if he's going to sell it.

Complete reversal since Saturday.

Sorry everyone, but thanks for trying to help.

bverboy

· #18 · Jun 18, 2019

sharps4590

· #19 · Jun 26, 2019

I was in Jeff. City Monday and saw the rifle at a LGS. Nice piece with a little freckling on the front half of the barrel. Be interesting to see how they appraise it.

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Mailman

· #20 · Jun 26, 2019

67Firebird said:
I just heard back from him, and it's all changed.

He's keeping the revolver, and he's going to get a "professional appraisal" on selling price for the rifle, before deciding if he's going to sell it.

Complete reversal since Saturday.

Sorry everyone, but thanks for trying to help.

Typical Old Person actions.

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