[Dirtdog]

Got the results back...

Plot #1.....4 acres pH of 6.0 suggested lime 110
Plot #2.....1 acres pH of 4.9 suggested lime 1170
Plot #3......1 acre pH of 5.0 suggested lime 1150

what do those numbers mean as far as 110, 1170, 1150? Are those pounds of lime? tons?

 

[DanF]

probably pounds per acre...

 

[Modeerhunter]

More likely the ENM or Effective Neutralizing Material value per acre. Gonna have to check with your lime dealer to find out what his limes ENM value is and how much per acre you'll need.

 

[mrb]

Those numbers should be pounds per acre since 6.3 or 6.4 is neutral I believe..... notice that plot one suggests only 110 with a ph of 6.0 vs plot 2 with a ph of 4.9 require 1170.

Best to double check with the place you got the results from but that would be my guess.... :cheers::cheers:

 

[rat]

Like Modeer says, it will depend on what the ENM of the lime you are able to source.
Your dealer will be able to interpret your soil test and make a recommendation based on what lime he is carrying. :cheers:

 

[HabitatMD]

7.0 is neutral mrb. :wave:

 

[Woods]

So if you had a PH reading of 6.0 and wanted a 6.5 ph.
Whats the suggested tonage of lime to acre ratio to get it there?

 

[HabitatMD]

Soil test would tell you woods. Its not that straight forward. Soil chemistry can be relatively complex.

 

[Cburrows_tx]

I AGREE IT IS MOST LIKELY POUNDS PER ACRE. BUT THAT IS FIGURED OFF OF 100% EFFECTIVE LIME. THAT IS WHY YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT LIME THEY CARRY THERE AND FIGURE FROM THERE!

THIS CHART MIGHT HELP YA WHEN FIGURING THAT!

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[beanpile]

your going through the same thing I went through last year .. First you need to find out what ENM your local lime quarry can deliver.. usually its in the 4-500 area range then you take that # and divide it into whatever # the soil sample suggests

for example plot # 2 .. if your ENM of the lime is 500 you'd need about 2.25 tons per acre.

your biggest challenge IMO will be to find some one to spread that lime for you .. they dont like small acreage. The wife has a 1/8th acre plot so we just spread garden lime which has an ENM of about 660 and we put about 600 #'s via seed spreader.

I feel your pain in this. Its like banging your head up against a wal trying to get small acreage plots limed .. It sucks. I have all but given up.

 

[Woods]

[rquote=1499296&tid=104589&author=HabitatMD]Soil test would tell you woods. Its not that straight forward. Soil chemistry can be relatively complex.[/rquote]

Understand. My work schedule just hasn't allowed much time latley. Was thinking about a least getting some lime on the plots, last ph test we were at 6.0 on all the plots. And grabbing some soil to test for the next trip. which might not be till fall planting.

 

[Woods]

[rquote=1499310&tid=104589&author=beanpile]your going through the same thing I went through last year .. First you need to find out what ENM your local lime quarry can deliver.. usually its in the 4-500 area range then you take that # and divide it into whatever # the soil sample suggests

for example plot # 2 .. if your ENM of the lime is 500 you'd need about 2.25 tons per acre.

your biggest challenge IMO will be to find some one to spread that lime for you .. they dont like small acreage. The wife has a 1/8th acre plot so we just spread garden lime which has an ENM of about 660 and we put about 600 #'s via seed spreader.

I feel your pain in this. Its like banging your head up against a wal trying to get small acreage plots limed .. It sucks. I have all but given up.
[/rquote]

Have you tried getting one of the buggies from the seed/feed stores to pull behind your truck?

 

[HabitatMD]

Hey Woods, Mr Hannibal might be able to give you a clue for general guidelines on how much X amount of lime with raise pH 0.5 or whatever. :cheers:

[Edited on 12-5-2009 by HabitatMD]

 

[Modeerhunter]

[rquote=1499323&tid=104589&author=HabitatMD]Hey Woods, Mr Hannibal might be able to give you a clue for general guidelines on how much X amount of lime with raise pH 0.5 or whatever. :cheers:

[Edited on 12-5-2009 by HabitatMD][/rquote]

That's really all you need. Each site will vary, but a general idea applied over years of foodplots will take care of it even if it ain't rocket science.

Been working for me for years, and I grow a few good plots. :cheers:

 

[Dirtdog]

thanks for you help guys, i'm going down to Straatmans Feed in Franklin Co tomorrow and they do lime there so i'll let you know what I find out

 

[beanpile]

[rquote=1499319&tid=104589&author=Woods][rquote=1499310&tid=104589&author=beanpile]your going through the same thing I went through last year .. First you need to find out what ENM your local lime quarry can deliver.. usually its in the 4-500 area range then you take that # and divide it into whatever # the soil sample suggests

for example plot # 2 .. if your ENM of the lime is 500 you'd need about 2.25 tons per acre.

your biggest challenge IMO will be to find some one to spread that lime for you .. they dont like small acreage. The wife has a 1/8th acre plot so we just spread garden lime which has an ENM of about 660 and we put about 600 #'s via seed spreader.

I feel your pain in this. Its like banging your head up against a wal trying to get small acreage plots limed .. It sucks. I have all but given up.
[/rquote]

Have you tried getting one of the buggies from the seed/feed stores to pull behind your truck? [/rquote]

If I understand it correctly those buggies are not powerful enough to spread lime unless it is very very dry

 

[jaytee]

6.0 is not too bad, the others are gonna need sweetened up for sure. Try to find a farmer who is going to get some lime spread and piggy back on his load if you have to. You may have to pay the driver an extra 50 bucks or so but it would be well worth it if he'll spread it for you.

 

[Woods]

[rquote=1499610&tid=104589&author=beanpile][rquote=1499319&tid=104589&author=Woods][rquote=1499310&tid=104589&author=beanpile]your going through the same thing I went through last year .. First you need to find out what ENM your local lime quarry can deliver.. usually its in the 4-500 area range then you take that # and divide it into whatever # the soil sample suggests

for example plot # 2 .. if your ENM of the lime is 500 you'd need about 2.25 tons per acre.

your biggest challenge IMO will be to find some one to spread that lime for you .. they dont like small acreage. The wife has a 1/8th acre plot so we just spread garden lime which has an ENM of about 660 and we put about 600 #'s via seed spreader.

I feel your pain in this. Its like banging your head up against a wal trying to get small acreage plots limed .. It sucks. I have all but given up.
[/rquote]

Have you tried getting one of the buggies from the seed/feed stores to pull behind your truck? [/rquote]

If I understand it correctly those buggies are not powerful enough to spread lime unless it is very very dry[/rquote]

Thats a good question, I'll be asking Monday at MFA. :thinking:

 

[Dirtdog]

Just talked to the guy at the feed store and he knows a guy that will lime it for me. He says that you can lime over fescue and once it rains it will work its way into the soil. Is that true?

 

[jaytee]

Yep, you can pretty much lime over about anything and once you get a rain or two, it'll be down into the soil.