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now think about that for a minute dave. say you are sitting in mcdonalds with your little angel having a big mac fries and a kiddy meal and some mope walks in with his .38 special strapped to his hip. tell me your attention would not be fixed on exactly what he was doing with a firearm strapped to him especially with your daughter sitting there. i don't think it is that rediculous that law enforcement pays attention to people with firearms. it is also my resposibility to take my happy :***: home everynight to my family so trust me when i say if you have a firearm you have my undevided attention. have to respectfully disagree with you on this one brohter.
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I was wearing my colt 357 one deer season and It was kind of around the back so I forgot it was there. Wore it all day and my friend had mentioned we had been all over town during the middle of the day had been in two convience stores and a grocery store and nobody said anyting.
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Hey Rat, I believe with the new CCW laws in MO, you can now legally carry a loaded handgun/rifle in your vehicle where ever ya want....
I used to have a copy of the statute, I'll have to look for it. Mebbe one of our lawyer types can expound on this. If I remember right, ya had to get past some real legalise to understand it....:bangin:
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OK, here's the english explanation of carrying in your vehicle...
Looks like rifles aren't included.
Vehicles
Under the statute the right to carry loaded concealed handguns in one’s home is extended to one’s vehicle. This extended right is confined to persons 21 years old or older who lawfully possesses the firearm. This right only applies to “concealable†firearms (they mean handguns). It does NOT apply to rifles, carbines, or shotguns. It doesn’t have to make sense, it’s just the law.
The term "lawfully possess" means that the individual can legally own a handgun. Some persons have privately acquired handguns in Missouri without going through Missouri's mandatory, but lightly enforced, purchase permit system (see MISSOURI WEAPONS AND SELF-DEFENSE LAW at page 92). While these handguns have been unlawfully purchased this does not mean that they are unlawfully possessed.
The handgun may be carried anywhere in the passenger compartment of the vehicle. As in the home, one must be cautious about access by children. People have been charged with endangering the welfare of children by allowing access to guns, and certain prosecutors may take this as a consolation prize.
Looks like rifles aren't included.
Vehicles
Under the statute the right to carry loaded concealed handguns in one’s home is extended to one’s vehicle. This extended right is confined to persons 21 years old or older who lawfully possesses the firearm. This right only applies to “concealable†firearms (they mean handguns). It does NOT apply to rifles, carbines, or shotguns. It doesn’t have to make sense, it’s just the law.
The term "lawfully possess" means that the individual can legally own a handgun. Some persons have privately acquired handguns in Missouri without going through Missouri's mandatory, but lightly enforced, purchase permit system (see MISSOURI WEAPONS AND SELF-DEFENSE LAW at page 92). While these handguns have been unlawfully purchased this does not mean that they are unlawfully possessed.
The handgun may be carried anywhere in the passenger compartment of the vehicle. As in the home, one must be cautious about access by children. People have been charged with endangering the welfare of children by allowing access to guns, and certain prosecutors may take this as a consolation prize.
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This is kinda interesting...
These companies put money up to fight the concealed carry laws...
http://www.moccw.org/opponents.html
Here's one in particular that caught my eye...
Michael Douglas Foundation
3550 Wilshire
Los Angeles, CA 90010
$2,500
These companies put money up to fight the concealed carry laws...
http://www.moccw.org/opponents.html
Here's one in particular that caught my eye...
Michael Douglas Foundation
3550 Wilshire
Los Angeles, CA 90010
$2,500
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Mike i completely understand whacha sayin brotha'... I am at times only seeing things in my point of view... Im sure that if i was out and someone walked in I would fix right on him as well...
Why? For a few reasons, number one, even tho its our right, people walking around with guns on their sholders, hips etc is not happening in mainstream america. So, when it does happen you wander.. is he going to rob me? The store? Whats going on?
I dont blame you or anyone else.. I blame the thieves and crooks of america giving us law abiding citizens a bad rap...
Anywho, Mike... I do appreciate your point of view.... I completely understand :cheers:
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Some info;
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/chapters/chap571.htm
3. Subdivisions (1), (5), (8), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section do not apply when the actor is transporting such weapons in a nonfunctioning state or in an unloaded state when ammunition is not readily accessible or when such weapons are not readily accessible. Subdivision (1) of subsection 1 of this section does not apply to any person twenty-one years of age or older transporting a concealable firearm in the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle, so long as such concealable firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed, nor when the actor is also in possession of an exposed firearm or projectile weapon for the lawful pursuit of game, or is in his or her dwelling unit or upon premises over which the actor has possession, authority or control, or is traveling in a continuous journey peaceably through this state. Subdivision (10) of subsection 1 of this section does not apply if the firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed by a person while traversing school premises for the purposes of transporting a student to or from school, or possessed by an adult for the purposes of facilitation of a school-sanctioned firearm-related event.
4. Subdivisions (1), (8), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section shall not apply to any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121 or a valid permit or endorsement to carry concealed firearms issued by another state or political subdivision of another state.
5. Subdivisions (3), (4), (5), (6), (7), (8), (9), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section shall not apply to persons who are engaged in a lawful act of defense pursuant to section 563.031, RSMo.
http://www.wmsa.net/jailcard.pdf
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/chapters/chap571.htm
3. Subdivisions (1), (5), (8), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section do not apply when the actor is transporting such weapons in a nonfunctioning state or in an unloaded state when ammunition is not readily accessible or when such weapons are not readily accessible. Subdivision (1) of subsection 1 of this section does not apply to any person twenty-one years of age or older transporting a concealable firearm in the passenger compartment of a motor vehicle, so long as such concealable firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed, nor when the actor is also in possession of an exposed firearm or projectile weapon for the lawful pursuit of game, or is in his or her dwelling unit or upon premises over which the actor has possession, authority or control, or is traveling in a continuous journey peaceably through this state. Subdivision (10) of subsection 1 of this section does not apply if the firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed by a person while traversing school premises for the purposes of transporting a student to or from school, or possessed by an adult for the purposes of facilitation of a school-sanctioned firearm-related event.
4. Subdivisions (1), (8), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section shall not apply to any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121 or a valid permit or endorsement to carry concealed firearms issued by another state or political subdivision of another state.
5. Subdivisions (3), (4), (5), (6), (7), (8), (9), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section shall not apply to persons who are engaged in a lawful act of defense pursuant to section 563.031, RSMo.
http://www.wmsa.net/jailcard.pdf
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Its my understanding with the new law that you cannot carry a handgun even visibly without a permit.
Its my understanding with the new law that you cannot carry a handgun even visibly without a permit.
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I believe it is still lawful to carry an unconcealed firearm in the state of Mo. However some municipalities may have laws that forbid it.:banana:
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