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Discussion in 'Hog Hunting' started by John Cash, Feb 1, 2018.
Hopefully they will never make up here or across the MO river for that matter
That is what I say how can anyone say anything if they have never dealt with them.
Hunting does not scatter them like MDC says. I know many times kill Hogs over Gut piles after I've made a kill. MDC just don't want competition on their fun. Plus their not selling Tags with Hogs.
Let the Big Grin at them.
are the hogs spreading faster or slower than CWD?
Oh pictures of damage
Hey could have been the Big Grin she likes Corn
The Big Grin took her Meds today.
I do believe that hunting with dogs (which is the most effective method) might scatter hogs. Those guys that are serious hog hunters with dogs use atv or mule/horses to get deep into the big blocks of public ground to chase hogs. I'm sure that has pushed hogs around into new unpressured territory. Since hogs don't have a home range and roam freely where they're finding food, water, shelter and no predators they'll go where they want. Put the heat on them and they'll shift to a new area. So yeah, hunters running them with dogs probably does cause them to expand their range. In defense of the dog guys, they kill a lot of hogs! There is that, the dog runners are more effectively killing hogs than other methods.
So I kinda get what MDC is putting out about hunting hogs by guys in general. But during November general firearms season when there is nearly 500,000 hunters in the woods it doesn't matter and yet it's illegal to shoot a hog. That's dumb...
Exactly how I feel about it. Yeah, hubting them year round or wirh very long seasons encourages people to release them, etc. But being legal to hubt them during 2 11 day periods of firearms deer hubting isnt going to give people incentive to move and release hogs. It could only help the issue.
I don't think it's illegal to shoot a hog if you are deer hunting and one strolls by. I think it's illegal to be out there specifically hog hunting on conservation ground?
Kind of neat to have a population of a good eating animal that can't decline regardless of hunting pressure! Sure wish our deer/turkey herd was like that!
Pretty sure its illegal even during deer season on conservation ground.
I heard coyotes are tasty...
Just wondering and thinking out loud here, not picking at MDC or anyone, (I'm sure I couldn't kill all the hogs out) ..but when you think back...before open range ended in the thirties and forties, people turned their hogs out in the woods and everywhere. ...gathered in the fall to sell and or butcher.....so open range came to an end ...and the farmers basically caught ALL the hogs....for decades you never heard of a wild hog.....it was not a problem.....suddenly they are here and rapidly expanding their populations. And supposedly it's damn near impossible to get a handle on them and kill them out....one has to wonder if we are not hungry enough or ....something.....the people back in the day got them all out of the woods once......so you have to say it CAN be done ....maybe not by fat well fed folks like us....but it can be done.......just some pondering on my part. Any thoughts from others?
When we had Hogs in the brush we would still feed them regular.
When I hunt them that is what I do and can kill many as I want to. Should catch a bunch and sell them but don't know if I could.
The Big Grin could bark at them.
Please cite that from the regulations?
Like oneshot said they were still slopped and kept semi tame. Even then I bet there were some that went feral. But the Forrest exploitation of the late 1800s and early 1900s would have reduced cover and food at a time the Ozarks was crawling with hungry loggers to finish them off. It would be really hard to make a comparison to then and now.
Well actually way back in the day...they were not fed much at all.pretty much little or nothing.....they turned them out...and gathered them up...and like you say...fed or not fed a few would likely go ferral....soooo....if there were some wild ones...there were....how did they catch them all.....more time and effort was put into it probably by poor hungry people....today's situation is different and what effort in time and money we will put into may not be adaquate....I'm not saying I know the answer....I'm just saying I don't be believe it's not possible to get control of them....it may take more man hours and dollars than we are willing to spend at it ...but if poor farmers in the thirties and forties could manage it ....I'm saying it is possible....just my opinion.....I've found out I've been wrong about lots of other things in my life so wouldn't break me up if turns out I'm mistaken again...
I think free range went on into 50's and 60's in Reynolds county and that area. Getting rid of hogs wolves etc. would have been a serious undertaking and quite an accomplishment like you state.
For a couple years
Put a bounty on them 3 months out of the year January February March
$10 a left ear must be turned in fresh
With a $50 hog tag for the 3 months open season on as many as you can kill
And an open season the rest of the year $10 hog tag for the other 9 months
All hogs have to be tele checked within 24 hours but being killed
I have a feeling that would do more harm than good.
Fuldraw---I like the ideal, but would be afraid that when they started getting scarce, there would be those releasing them. If they would put a very hefty fine and loss of privilages, on those doing so, and not plea bargain it might work