I have about 200 of them. Once they take root they grow fast. Had to spray a few last year due to bag worms. My tallest ones are about 15' so far. They look terrible in ice storms but flex pretty good. Some get wind burned in winter but green back up.
Growing Green Giant Arborvitae
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They don’t grow six ft a year as advertised but they do grow pretty fast. They smell great too. Be careful not to plant too deep. Yes bagworms love them so keep an eye out for those little nasties
200 is a bunch. What supplier did you use and how big were they when you planted them?I have about 200 of them. Once they take root they grow fast. Had to spray a few last year due to bag worms. My tallest ones are about 15' so far. They look terrible in ice storms but flex pretty good. Some get wind burned in winter but green back up.
Are they fairly resistant to animals and deer eating them and rubbing on them? I need something to block a neighbors view. The opening is only about 20 yards wide.
yes, I have read and seen at mom n dads that the green giant variety are more deer resistant than the other arborvitae varieties such as emerald. The deer were hard on the emeralds at my parents this past winter, but did not mess with the green giants.Are they fairly resistant to animals and deer eating them and rubbing on them? I need something to block a neighbors view. The opening is only about 20 yards wide.
Each year I plant about 30-40 trees on 5' spacing for the past 5 years or so doing a wind screen around some shop buildings. I had been getting them from a grower in Joplin, but have switched to Michigan now as they seem a bit more tolerant that first winter or two. The Joplin ones seems to really get wind burned. All of mine have been 12-18 inches tall in quarts when I started. I'll use an auger on a skid loader or a handheld auger so the hole is a lot larger then fill with loose good soil. I have soaker hoses on them and after about year 3 I let them on their own. Like has been said they are supposed to be deer tolerant. I've never had an issue.200 is a bunch. What supplier did you use and how big were they when you planted them?
Definitely watch for the bag worms on them.
What do you treat them with for bagworms?Definitely watch for the bag worms on them.
https://www.semissourian.com/story/1432186.htmlWhat do you treat them with for bagworms?
I like these plants so far. BUT... keep in mind, we've liked a lot of plants that didn't survive low temps, or rapid drops in temps. (E.g. '89, '91).
From what I've seen, these trees can grow an average of 18" a year. Also, keep in mind, when you buy western cedar, this is the tree the lumber comes from. The thing is a HUGE tree in the pacific NW. From all indications, it's gonna be as tall as anything around it.
Not saying you shouldn't plant it, but I wouldn't marry it.
Also, Wings... we start looking for bagworms the first week in June. Last year, they hatched the third week in June. They haven't hatched iin the KC area yet.
When young, ANYTHING kills them. Contact insecticides, permethrins, pyrethroids, organo-phosphates, anything.
When they quit eating, nothing kills them.
From what I've seen, these trees can grow an average of 18" a year. Also, keep in mind, when you buy western cedar, this is the tree the lumber comes from. The thing is a HUGE tree in the pacific NW. From all indications, it's gonna be as tall as anything around it.
Not saying you shouldn't plant it, but I wouldn't marry it.
Also, Wings... we start looking for bagworms the first week in June. Last year, they hatched the third week in June. They haven't hatched iin the KC area yet.
When young, ANYTHING kills them. Contact insecticides, permethrins, pyrethroids, organo-phosphates, anything.
When they quit eating, nothing kills them.
Ive planted several bigger green giants, norway spruce and white/red pine at the farm this year. Hoping to add several every year good/permanent screening to all my foodplot stands
Have you tried bacillus thurengiensisI like these plants so far. BUT... keep in mind, we've liked a lot of plants that didn't survive low temps, or rapid drops in temps. (E.g. '89, '91).
From what I've seen, these trees can grow an average of 18" a year. Also, keep in mind, when you buy western cedar, this is the tree the lumber comes from. The thing is a HUGE tree in the pacific NW. From all indications, it's gonna be as tall as anything around it.
Not saying you shouldn't plant it, but I wouldn't marry it.
Also, Wings... we start looking for bagworms the first week in June. Last year, they hatched the third week in June. They haven't hatched iin the KC area yet.
When young, ANYTHING kills them. Contact insecticides, permethrins, pyrethroids, organo-phosphates, anything.
When they quit eating, nothing kills them.
Camo,
Sure. It ain't a commercial product. When I spray something, people expect it to die, not get a tummy-ache and quit eating.
Sure. It ain't a commercial product. When I spray something, people expect it to die, not get a tummy-ache and quit eating.
and deep woods goat hunter...
There is one, count 'em ONE evergreen that grows in the prairie states. The Eastern Red Cedar. Anything else will have troubles. They may last 10 years, 20, maybe 100, but nothing else has lasted 1,000.
I know, you don't need even 50 years... but what happens when 2012 (high heat, drought) happens again, and eliminates the majority of the spruce?
White pine does pretty well here. I know one that is left at the old perimeter of the KC Country Club (Loose Park) from 1912. They planted 75.
White fir actually does as well as any of the conifers, but they don't get big here (again, KC). I knew one that was abused, root restricted, and still lasted over 100 years when the new owners decided it didn't suit their idea of a landscape. Tough darn tree. But only about 35' tall.
You get my point.
We ain't prairie anymore, but we still get prairie weather... and extremes. Don't fall in love with something that can't take the extremes.
There is one, count 'em ONE evergreen that grows in the prairie states. The Eastern Red Cedar. Anything else will have troubles. They may last 10 years, 20, maybe 100, but nothing else has lasted 1,000.
I know, you don't need even 50 years... but what happens when 2012 (high heat, drought) happens again, and eliminates the majority of the spruce?
White pine does pretty well here. I know one that is left at the old perimeter of the KC Country Club (Loose Park) from 1912. They planted 75.
White fir actually does as well as any of the conifers, but they don't get big here (again, KC). I knew one that was abused, root restricted, and still lasted over 100 years when the new owners decided it didn't suit their idea of a landscape. Tough darn tree. But only about 35' tall.
You get my point.
We ain't prairie anymore, but we still get prairie weather... and extremes. Don't fall in love with something that can't take the extremes.
Right, im not falling in love lol. Just going for something that will grow faster than the erc's im also planting. They (all the trees im planting ) look good in pops yard. Im having fun with it, though you are right the erc is king. Im going to mass plant those after my crp comes outand deep woods goat hunter...
There is one, count 'em ONE evergreen that grows in the prairie states. The Eastern Red Cedar. Anything else will have troubles. They may last 10 years, 20, maybe 100, but nothing else has lasted 1,000.
I know, you don't need even 50 years... but what happens when 2012 (high heat, drought) happens again, and eliminates the majority of the spruce?
White pine does pretty well here. I know one that is left at the old perimeter of the KC Country Club (Loose Park) from 1912. They planted 75.
White fir actually does as well as any of the conifers, but they don't get big here (again, KC). I knew one that was abused, root restricted, and still lasted over 100 years when the new owners decided it didn't suit their idea of a landscape. Tough darn tree. But only about 35' tall.
You get my point.
We ain't prairie anymore, but we still get prairie weather... and extremes. Don't fall in love with something that can't take the extremes.
U need another kid u take up all this free time u have now !! Lmao
Negative ghost riderU need another kid u take up all this free time u have now !! Lmao
Y'all don't have holly trees??and deep woods goat hunter...
There is one, count 'em ONE evergreen that grows in the prairie states. The Eastern Red Cedar. Anything else will have troubles. They may last 10 years, 20, maybe 100, but nothing else has lasted 1,000.
I know, you don't need even 50 years... but what happens when 2012 (high heat, drought) happens again, and eliminates the majority of the spruce?
White pine does pretty well here. I know one that is left at the old perimeter of the KC Country Club (Loose Park) from 1912. They planted 75.
White fir actually does as well as any of the conifers, but they don't get big here (again, KC). I knew one that was abused, root restricted, and still lasted over 100 years when the new owners decided it didn't suit their idea of a landscape. Tough darn tree. But only about 35' tall.
You get my point.
We ain't prairie anymore, but we still get prairie weather... and extremes. Don't fall in love with something that can't take the extremes.
Yeah, we do. None very big. I like hollies. Under-used.
Around here, there are three evergreens that can take shade; hemlock, holly and yew.
Holly gets kinda sparse, but it'll take shade... full sun, not so much.
Speaking of which, there is a hemlock at the old Shawnee Cemetery that is the champ. We think it's over 100. Never really think of them as trees, but that one sure is.
Around here, there are three evergreens that can take shade; hemlock, holly and yew.
Holly gets kinda sparse, but it'll take shade... full sun, not so much.
Speaking of which, there is a hemlock at the old Shawnee Cemetery that is the champ. We think it's over 100. Never really think of them as trees, but that one sure is.
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