Great Seminar on Forage Soybeans

Discussion in 'Deer Management, Habitat & Conservation' started by horntagger, May 27, 2009.

  1. horntagger

    horntagger Active Member

    Jun 30, 2003
    Southeast Missouri
    Learned some neat stuff.

    1. Forage Soybeans can tolerate lower PH don't have to have that perfect 7 and P and K aren't as important. So if you can't get their don't panic but he had a great example

    You have three size drinking straws. PH7 being the largest diameter straw, and PH5 being the smallest straw you still get the liquid but maybe not as fast.

    2. Deer can't not over browse Forage Soybeans unlike RR Soybeans.

    3. If you are going to plant in rows then prefer 32 inches apart but that is just a preference not rule.

    4. Some common sense stuff - Leaf size on forage soybeans is alot larger.

    If you have a deer eating 10 x10 area and the leaf size is bigger then getting more nutrition.

    5. Forage soybeans over alfalfa for planting- alfalfa will get tuff until cut again. But with that in mind if it was me and I had alfalfa I would cut it just before season open.

    6. Reseeding - Looks like my plan of having strips this year may be out because I have so much reseeding - Unlike corn it will mature and grow again.

    7. Plant you plots with Protein for the Sept, October and Carbohydrates for the November, December

    8. Who ever seed mixes you use if they look pretty and the deer not using it, what the use. The best food plots mixes are the ones that are browsed heavy and lots of droppings.

    9. Clover for deer is like a wave on providing deer what it needs but when it at it's lowest spot is when chicory is at it's highest.

    10. To get a mature crop June 15th in SE Missouri is the latest you should plant.
     
  2. limbhanger28

    limbhanger28 Member

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    Feb 6, 2008
    southwest Missouri
    The thing with alfalfa is you cant just pick when you are going to cut it if you want a good stand. We have a farmer down by us that is the king of watching the weather. He always has a ton of deer on his because he always cuts it at the right time. Ideally you want to cut it with enough time to get it baled before it rains again.
     

  3. jmbuckhunter

    jmbuckhunter New Member

    Planted some in a couple of mixes on April 25th. Last weekend they were 4-6 inches tall. I'm thinking they should have grown some this week. The deer have found them and are nipping some off already. I'm anxious to see what they do thru the summer.
     
  4. Thayer

    Thayer New Member

    Dec 17, 2005
    Imperial, Mo
    Thank you for the info.:cheers:
     
  5. Roger rodbolt

    Roger rodbolt New Member

    19
    Aug 2, 2007
    Moniteau
    [rquote=1276612&tid=89350&author=horntagger]Learned some neat stuff.




    6. Reseeding - Looks like my plan of having strips this year may be out because I have so much reseeding - Unlike corn it will mature and grow again.

    Horntagger,

    Thank you for all the information, wish I could have attended the seminar. I broadcast 300lbs of Eagle forage beans and 50lbs of RR field beans on three farms in two counties on May 14 & 15th. Broadcast some sunflower for screen and milo, millet, etc on other plots. Everything is up and looking great even though the ground was way wet, my tractors were leaving heavy tracks on most of the prepared ground.

    Your reseeding statement in #6 got my attention. Are you saying that foraging soybeans will reseed and if so do you mow them in the spring and disc or harrow in or ??

    Thanks again!
     
  6. jaytee

    jaytee New Member

    Jan 28, 2007
    Fair Grove
    Do they make a RR forage bean?
     
  7. Roger rodbolt

    Roger rodbolt New Member

    19
    Aug 2, 2007
    Moniteau
    Jaytee,

    The Eagle seed I used was Roundup Ready and had three different types of forage beans. I think it was called Wildlife Managers Mix.

    http://www.eagleseed.com/testimonials.html

    Eagle sold out of forage seed about a month ago but in an earlier post I listed a MO dealer that still had some of the WMM and Large Lad RR beans.
     
  8. horntagger

    horntagger Active Member

    Jun 30, 2003
    Southeast Missouri
    http://www.oakhavenforages.com/

    They have RR Forage Soybeans and the stories I am here and where seed started from I would go with them.

    That's all I going to say
     
  9. horntagger

    horntagger Active Member

    Jun 30, 2003
    Southeast Missouri
    On Reseeding the mix I have will not sure about the others
     
  10. HabitatMD

    HabitatMD Active Member

    Jan 4, 2007
    St. Louis, Mo
    USFWC still had some Forage beans left I believe.

    I was going to try out a bag or two this year, but we got such a good volunteer stand and a buddy was footing the bill on the supplement beans, we didn't get them ordered.

    Heard great things about them, that's for sure.
     
  11. usfwc

    usfwc New Member

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    Feb 24, 2007
    Miami, OK
    Yes, I do have some left. Thanks for thinking of me, Dan. :)

    ...not that I'm advertising on here. I can't even post anything in the classifieds/trading post that doesn't get deleted.