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With a muzzleloader that is. Went out this morning saw a couple runnning through the woods behind my stand. I got down around 8:30 decided to do alittle walking was going along a old logging road and heard something coming. I got ready and hear come 2 doe the first one got in a clearing and I shot and when the smoke cleared there she layed. She dressed around 75 pounds. This is the first deer I ever killed with a muzzleloader. Only thing that would of been better is that remembered to take a pic before I skinned it. the first deer that I killed and didn't get a pic still mad at myself.