Dug out a few of my old lead spoons that work well in fast water. They sink to deeper depths because of their weight. I tip them with just the tail section of a Mr. Twister to give them some action . I try to keep them bouncing just off the bottom to draw strikes. Its been a while since I've used these. Probably just ad a few more ounces of lead to the bottom of the lake when they get hung up.