food plot question

Discussion in 'Deer Management, Habitat & Conservation' started by hunter7x, Mar 22, 2006.

  1. hunter7x

    hunter7x New Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    Indiana
    Last year my little plot had about a foot of leave little on it and I raked and tried to burn it off.
    Would leaving this year leaves on it when I till be a problem ?
     
  2. riverbottomhunter

    riverbottomhunter Well-Known Member

    Sep 27, 2005
    Chariton Co.
    I would guess no. If anything I would say it would act like a thin layer of mulch. But I have been wrong before.
     

  3. hunter7x

    hunter7x New Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    Indiana
    Thats what I was thinking. Last year it was like any other Oak woods, a foot of leaves so I wanted to get them off to work the ground, but with this years leave only I'm thinkin I can just till them in.
     
  4. riverbottomhunter

    riverbottomhunter Well-Known Member

    Sep 27, 2005
    Chariton Co.
    Thats what I always do with my food plot. Just work them into the ground. Kind of just like working the corn & bean stocks into the ground. Heck the leaves might actually be good for the soil.
     
  5. Thayer

    Thayer New Member

    Dec 17, 2005
    Imperial, Mo
    Hardwood leaves will add acid to the soil, be sure to do your soil tests and lime accordingly.
     
  6. Hoytshooter

    Hoytshooter Active Member

    Mar 7, 2005
    Small Buck, MO
    Thayer took the words right out of my mouth. That many leaves can be pretty acidic to the soil. You should be fine tilling them in but liming would also be a good idea.
     
  7. rat

    rat Legbone

    Dec 13, 2005
    There is a pretty broad range of pH that most plants will tolerate, usually between 6 (slightly acidic) to 7.5 (slightly alkaline). Dont waste your money on lime if you are between these ranges.

    BTW.. I will be happy to pH your soil if you will ship me a sample. I cannot analyze for micronutrients but I will pH it and I would be happy to do this for nada! U2U and I'll give you my info!
     
  8. SmokinBarrel

    SmokinBarrel New Member

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    May 19, 2003
    St. Louis, MO
    I just disced the leaves under. I had to make the same choice, so I decided to disc under. I originally started out raking the leaves back, but that was tiring. Thus, I settled for discing under.
     
  9. Thayer

    Thayer New Member

    Dec 17, 2005
    Imperial, Mo
    Hey rat, what do you use to test the ph...liquid or a meter?
     
  10. JMAC

    JMAC Senior Member

    Aug 31, 2005
    Cole County
    I saw a ph tester in the Cabela's spring turkey catalog. It was a meter. Only $21.99 or something like that. Pretty handy to have. Just add distilled water to your soil and TEST AWAY. They advertised that it was just as acurate as sending it off.
     
  11. Thayer

    Thayer New Member

    Dec 17, 2005
    Imperial, Mo
    Ph is a good judgement of your soil, but I have found that if you can get a certified NPK analysis of you soil and do your homework with the results, you can save a good chunk of change on fertilizer costs. A PH meter would be good to adjust your lime additions, also a costly adventure.
     
  12. rat

    rat Legbone

    Dec 13, 2005
    I use a lab-standard pH meter.. Like jm says, just mix the soil with distilled or di water and insert the probe. Not complicated and the pH meters at cabelas would do the trick just fine, so long as they are calibrated properly. Our meters are calibrated monthly.
     
  13. FiremanBrad

    FiremanBrad New Member

    SmokinBarrel, nice lookin disc there, where'd ya get it? How much was it?
     
  14. Whitemarsh

    Whitemarsh New Member

    Jan 1, 2006
    Greene Co.
    If you turn a lot of leaves under, you may have to add a little extra nitrogen to the plot. While the leaves are decomposing the bacteria will tie up most of the nitrogen in the surrounding soil. When decomposition is complete the nitrogen will be available again. The rate of decomposition will depend on the amount of nitrogen available and the amount of moisture in the soil.