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ah, but turkeys didn't reach the carrying capacity, they did peak due to the fur market dropping and the nest raiders blossoming! None of the 100's of previous studies compiled in the many Missouri turkey restoration processes over the last 200 years can prove otherwise:)

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ah, but turkeys didn't reach the carrying capacity, they did peak due to the fur market dropping and the nest raiders blossoming! None of the 100's of previous studies compiled in the many Missouri turkey restoration processes over the last 200 years can prove otherwise:)

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Thats odd. MDC says they did....:thinking::thinking::thinking:
 

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what were the shortage of resources to cause the adult turkey population to decline?
Nesting habitat and brooding habitat.
 
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ah, but turkeys didn't reach the carrying capacity, they did peak due to the fur market dropping and the nest raiders blossoming! None of the 100's of previous studies compiled in the many Missouri turkey restoration processes over the last 200 years can prove otherwise:)

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YES HAWK THAT IS FOR DUMMY,S LIKE YOU BUT EVEN THE Dumbest one IS NOT STUPID. ONLY you from the land of stupid would bite on that stink bait WHICH IN THIS DISCUSSION DWELLS OUTSIDE THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY.
Its not a possibility, its a FACT. It has more "historical record" than any record youd like to espouse.
 

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Yes hawk there is such a thing ,the stretch is trying to use that to explain the sucking of the eggs .There is no loss of anything from having turkey, they do not rebound as long as the suckers keep increasing the chock hold at the eggular level.
TO SIT HERE AND SEE YOU TRY to pass that off as having anything to do with the situation we are facing and have faced in increasing severity for thirty years now ranks right up there with modifying the weather explanation every year when the weather is good but the hatch still sucks. No HAWK THE TURKEY ARE NOT DESTROYED BY HIGH HUMIDITY OR COOL TEMPERATURE. If they were the places having the possibility of having turkey would be mighty small.
THE TURKEY HERE ARE NOT SUFFERING FROM ENVIRONMENTAL RESISTANCE THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM 30 years of not addressing a broken plan to keep racoon populations multiple times less dense.To see the problem and not address it is malpractice.
 

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Yes hawk there is such a thing ,the stretch is trying to use that to explain the sucking of the eggs .There is no loss of anything from having turkey, they do not rebound as long as the suckers keep increasing the chock hold at the eggular level.
TO SIT HERE AND SEE YOU TRY to pass that off as having anything to do with the situation we are facing and have faced in increasing severity for thirty years now ranks right up there with modifying the weather explanation every year when the weather is good but the hatch still sucks. No HAWK THE TURKEY ARE NOT DESTROYED BY HIGH HUMIDITY OR COOL TEMPERATURE. If they were the places having the possibility of having turkey would be mighty small.
THE TURKEY HERE ARE NOT SUFFERING FROM ENVIRONMENTAL RESISTANCE THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM 30 years of not addressing a broken plan to keep racoon populations multiple times less dense.To see the problem and not address it is malpractice.
MDC and every other researcher says you are wrong.
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HAWK TRY NOT TO HAVE A MISSOURI BIOLOGIST BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE MISSISSIPPI GUY WHO IS QUIT FRANKLY CLUELESS.
from 2 times zero eggs hatching to 11 of 14 nests hatching with just a adjustment of the critical variable. SIMILAR SUCCESS WHENEVER ANYONE DOES THE WORK .
 

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HAWK TRY NOT TO HAVE A MISSOURI BIOLOGIST BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE MISSISSIPPI GUY WHO IS QUIT FRANKLY CLUELESS.
from 2 times zero eggs hatching to 11 of 14 nests hatching with just a adjustment of the critical variable. SIMILAR SUCCESS WHENEVER ANYONE DOES THE WORK .
Wrong..... your trapping had nothing to do with you having more hatched birds.

All 3 of those guys know more about wild turkeys than you could learn in 10 lifetimes. Listen to them.
 

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Wrong..... your trapping had nothing to do with you having more hatched birds.

All 3 of those guys know more about wild turkeys than you could learn in 10 lifetimes. Listen to them.
the Mississippi guy has no clue how to design a scientific inquiry. Come to think of it the MO SNAPSHOT FAILED TO QUANTIFY CRITICAL VARIABLES TO.
WITHOUT TAKING ACTION THERE WOULD NOT OF BEEN BUMPER HATCHES THE LAST 2 SPRINGS , bY TAKING ACTION TURKEY HUNTING WILL BE GOOD HERE AGAIN IN 2 YEARS AND QUALITY WILL GET BETTER AND BETTER.
i AM RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING WILDLIFE HERE IF I WAITED FOR MDC TO COME AROUND THERE WOULD BE LITTLE LEFT. they can be great again it starts with a review of the historical evidence and requires solutions to the problems.The problems that are not normal and will not be tolerated by the public.
 

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the Mississippi guy has no clue how to design a scientific inquiry. Come to think of it the MO SNAPSHOT FAILED TO QUANTIFY CRITICAL VARIABLES TO.
WITHOUT TAKING ACTION THERE WOULD NOT OF BEEN BUMPER HATCHES THE LAST 2 SPRINGS , bY TAKING ACTION TURKEY HUNTING WILL BE GOOD HERE AGAIN IN 2 YEARS AND QUALITY WILL GET BETTER AND BETTER.
i AM RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING WILDLIFE HERE IF I WAITED FOR MDC TO COME AROUND THERE WOULD BE LITTLE LEFT. they can be great again it starts with a review of the historical evidence and requires solutions to the problems.The problems that are not normal and will not be tolerated by the public.
By all means hazel, please shower us with your qualifications....
 

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the Mississippi guy has no clue how to design a scientific inquiry. Come to think of it the MO SNAPSHOT FAILED TO QUANTIFY CRITICAL VARIABLES TO.
WITHOUT TAKING ACTION THERE WOULD NOT OF BEEN BUMPER HATCHES THE LAST 2 SPRINGS , bY TAKING ACTION TURKEY HUNTING WILL BE GOOD HERE AGAIN IN 2 YEARS AND QUALITY WILL GET BETTER AND BETTER.
i AM RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING WILDLIFE HERE IF I WAITED FOR MDC TO COME AROUND THERE WOULD BE LITTLE LEFT. they can be great again it starts with a review of the historical evidence and requires solutions to the problems.The problems that are not normal and will not be tolerated by the public.
None of them are from Mississippi btw....
 
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