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i've been waiting for wed. 25th to come so i can bowhunt again, now the mdc decided to make the anterless season which1) puts more pressure on the deer and 2) some of the big deer that are on my property i'd like to see their genetics paa on instead of not even giving the does a chance to have a buck. if they want to open an anterless season i think they should make it early season so all the buck fawns dont get runned off!
 

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:cheers::cheers: Delayed reaction man....:cheers:
 

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I agree with this one. Wish the antlerless season was in october
 

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isn't much different than last year, except last year is was break out the smoke poles day after rifle season ended. :cheers:
 

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agreed, it is tough for MDC to be everything to everyone but a 12 day antlerless season extending the continous pressure to 23 straight days of gunning does not sit well with me. I thought they moved the ML season to help reduce pressure, I was WRONG. But, hopefully the MDC knows more than we do:cheers:
 

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That is wishful thinking. They will keep it as is until herd numbers come down. Sucks, I know.
 

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i wish it wasent when it is
but what ya say we all take it with a grain of salt
and just try and injoy our selfs
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[rquote=1483724&tid=103717&author=cardiackiller]i've been waiting for wed. 25th to come so i can bowhunt again, now the mdc decided to make the anterless season which1) puts more pressure on the deer and 2) some of the big deer that are on my property i'd like to see their genetics paa on instead of not even giving the does a chance to have a buck. if they want to open an anterless season i think they should make it early season so all the buck fawns dont get runned off![/rquote]

1. So theres less pressure on deer if its earlier? :thinking: Interesting

2. So, if you kill them early, then the genetics are passed on? :thinking: Interesting
 

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Killing does early intensifies the rut because it keeps the bucks up and moving , looking for receptive does . A dead doe is a dead doe , no matter if it is shot before , during or after the rut .
Balancing the herd by shooting does improves the overall health of the herd. I like the way the TWRA manages does here in TN. In certain locations (Unit L) with an over population of deer , hunters can take up to 3 does a day . I have taken 3 does in a day while bowhunting .
There is more to QDM than passing up yearling bucks ......

Here is a good article on shooting does and QDM .
http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publications/pbfiles/pb1643.pdf
 

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[rquote=1483724&tid=103717&author=cardiackiller]i've been waiting for wed. 25th to come so i can bowhunt again, now the mdc decided to make the anterless season which1) puts more pressure on the deer and 2) some of the big deer that are on my property i'd like to see their genetics paa on instead of not even giving the does a chance to have a buck. if they want to open an anterless season i think they should make it early season so all the buck fawns dont get runned off![/rquote]

Actually, shooting the mother gives you a stronger chance of the BB staying on your property. The mother is the biggest reason for young buck dispersal.

In our neighborhood, I seriously doubt the extended doe season will have that much impact. As a rule, people are not nearly as energetic about going out to shoot a skin head. Course, I hunt private ground. I can see it as more of a problem on public ground.
 

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there is a doe season. its 4 months long with the bow. pretty soon there will be a antlerless archery season
 

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[rquote=1484557&tid=103717&author=Radar] .
Balancing the herd by shooting does improves the overall health of the herd. f[/rquote]

Thats not true.:confused: A deers health revolves around alot of things ,, but buck to doe ratio isn't one of them.

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The reason I would like to see an october doe season ,,would be to lower the percentage of button bucks included in the antlerless harvest. Before they start running off the button heads its alot easier to tell a big doe from one of the fawns. The button bucks normally make up 1/3rd of the antlerless harvest. If we could lower that to 1/4 of the harvest we would be increasing next yrs 1 1/2 yr old buck numbers by several thousand.

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[rquote=1487975&tid=103717&author=henry][rquote=1484557&tid=103717&author=Radar] .
Balancing the herd by shooting does improves the overall health of the herd. f[/rquote]

Thats not true.:confused: A deers health revolves around alot of things ,, but buck to doe ratio isn't one of them.

:cheers::cheers:[/rquote]

I think what he means is that by reducing doe numbers, the overall population is decreased meaning more nutrition for the remaining deer. Also, keeping doe number in check, creating a more balance herd, will in the long run improve age structure.
 

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[rquote=1488021&tid=103717&author=Sidewinder][rquote=1487975&tid=103717&author=henry][rquote=1484557&tid=103717&author=Radar] .
Balancing the herd by shooting does improves the overall health of the herd. f[/rquote]

Thats not true.:confused: A deers health revolves around alot of things ,, but buck to doe ratio isn't one of them.

:cheers::cheers:[/rquote]

I think what he means is that by reducing doe numbers, the overall population is decreased meaning more nutrition for the remaining deer. Also, keeping doe number in check, creating a more balance herd, will in the long run improve age structure.[/rquote]

There are almost no areas in Mo where there is a shortage on nutrition . Balance has nothing to do with a deers health or the deer herds health. The age structure so many of us strive for isn't healthier or natural,,just because its an age structure we want doesn't mean its an improvement.

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I agree with Henry, Missouri could support twice the deer population and starving would not be an issue. The only over population that we have is what the public is willing to put up with, especially people that hit them with their vehicle.
 

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hmmm...can anyone make sense of this for me?

-----i've been waiting for wed. 25th to come so i can bowhunt again
so you want to kill another deer, or ( insert number here)
-----not even giving the does a chance to have a buck
you want the deer to breed, but previous statements say otherwise...you want to shoot deer with archery equipment now
----- 2) some of the big deer that are on my property i'd like to see their genetics paa on..(..passed on)
again, you want the genetics on your property passed on, yet you want t go out and kill some deer now


I'm thinking its more like, " I want to bowhunt and kill a deer or (insert number here) and the mdc is giving other people an opportunity to shoot those same deer so I might miss out on something.

if its YOUR property, dont allow anyone to gun hunt does during the doe season. its as simple as that.
the idea that the mdc should eliminate seasons for the minority that feel they deserve it is sillyness, preiod.
 
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