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i keep hearing the deer count is down but does anybody have the offical numbers from up to this weekend?
just wondering
just wondering
deer count down ??
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me neither'i can't make any sense of that thing urbanhunter.is there one that states the whole states numbers all together i'm feeling lazy this morning
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[rquote=1484700&tid=103770&author=MellerAM]Firearms Season
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?
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well i guess it is down. thank yah sir:cheers:
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http://www.mdc.mo.gov/hunt/deer/deerhunt/
Here you go...pretty obvious to me that we have a problem. I would guess that there are more hunters now than in 1999.
2009 Opening Weekend Firearms 86202
2008 Opening Weekend Firearms 98565
2007 Opening Weekend Firearms 100438
2006 Opening Weekend Firearms 124271
2005 Opening Weekend Firearms N/A
2004 Opening Weekend Firearms 133,136
2003 Opening Weekend Firearms 110,995
2002 Opening Weekend Firearms 127,251
2001 Opening Weekend Firearms 116,553
2000 Opening Weekend Firearms 111,002
1999 Opening Weekend Firearms 94,481
Here you go...pretty obvious to me that we have a problem. I would guess that there are more hunters now than in 1999.
2009 Opening Weekend Firearms 86202
2008 Opening Weekend Firearms 98565
2007 Opening Weekend Firearms 100438
2006 Opening Weekend Firearms 124271
2005 Opening Weekend Firearms N/A
2004 Opening Weekend Firearms 133,136
2003 Opening Weekend Firearms 110,995
2002 Opening Weekend Firearms 127,251
2001 Opening Weekend Firearms 116,553
2000 Opening Weekend Firearms 111,002
1999 Opening Weekend Firearms 94,481
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[rquote=1484703&tid=103770&author=pinwheel][rquote=1484700&tid=103770&author=MellerAM]Firearms Season
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?[/rquote]
Those are firearms totals only :cheers:
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?[/rquote]
Those are firearms totals only :cheers:
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[rquote=1484726&tid=103770&author=MellerAM][rquote=1484703&tid=103770&author=pinwheel][rquote=1484700&tid=103770&author=MellerAM]Firearms Season
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?[/rquote]
Those are firearms totals only :cheers: [/rquote]
Through the end of the season then, right? We've still got a lot of firearms seasons left to complete. Not every year can be a record book year.:cheers:
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?[/rquote]
Those are firearms totals only :cheers: [/rquote]
Through the end of the season then, right? We've still got a lot of firearms seasons left to complete. Not every year can be a record book year.:cheers:
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[rquote=1484733&tid=103770&author=pinwheel][rquote=1484726&tid=103770&author=MellerAM][rquote=1484703&tid=103770&author=pinwheel][rquote=1484700&tid=103770&author=MellerAM]Firearms Season
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?[/rquote]
Those are firearms totals only :cheers: [/rquote]
Through the end of the season then, right? We've still got a lot of firearms seasons left to complete. Not every year can be a record book year.:cheers:[/rquote]
Through the end of TODAY. Today is the end of "firearms season"
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?[/rquote]
Those are firearms totals only :cheers: [/rquote]
Through the end of the season then, right? We've still got a lot of firearms seasons left to complete. Not every year can be a record book year.:cheers:[/rquote]
Through the end of TODAY. Today is the end of "firearms season"
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[rquote=1484748&tid=103770&author=MellerAM][rquote=1484733&tid=103770&author=pinwheel][rquote=1484726&tid=103770&author=MellerAM][rquote=1484703&tid=103770&author=pinwheel][rquote=1484700&tid=103770&author=MellerAM]Firearms Season
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?[/rquote]
Those are firearms totals only :cheers: [/rquote]
Through the end of the season then, right? We've still got a lot of firearms seasons left to complete. Not every year can be a record book year.:cheers:[/rquote]
Through the end of TODAY. Today is the end of "firearms season"[/rquote]
Gotcha.:cheers:
deer so far 187119
2008 total 200679
2007 total 214494[/rquote]
Do those totals include all the antlerless & youth seasons? How about bow season? Or, are they totals compared to this date for all 3 years?[/rquote]
Those are firearms totals only :cheers: [/rquote]
Through the end of the season then, right? We've still got a lot of firearms seasons left to complete. Not every year can be a record book year.:cheers:[/rquote]
Through the end of TODAY. Today is the end of "firearms season"[/rquote]
Gotcha.:cheers:
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Kinda hard to get all the numbers in one place. Looks like total deer kill so far is 244,257.
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[rquote=1484761&tid=103770&author=UrbanHunter]Kinda hard to get all the numbers in one place. Looks like total deer kill so far is 244,257.[/rquote]
That's really the total that matters, ain't it? If the total #'s for multiple years are close, then it's not a problem. Archery equipment is becoming more effective. Be curious to see what the grand totals are for multiple years & not just what the rifle season totals are.
That's really the total that matters, ain't it? If the total #'s for multiple years are close, then it's not a problem. Archery equipment is becoming more effective. Be curious to see what the grand totals are for multiple years & not just what the rifle season totals are.
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This is the Firearms Portion (normal novemer season only) numbers for the last 11 years. Had some good and bad. My main concern would be that there are a LOT more hunters out now than in 1998. *youth season began 2001*
2009 To The Minute 187,200
2008 Firearms Season 200,679
2007 Firearms Season 214,494
2006 Firearms Season 235,054
2005 Firearms Season 205,460
2004 Firearms Season 222,329
2003 Firearms Season 208,940
2002 Firearms Season 217,435
2001 Firearms Season 205,867
2000 Firearms Season 201,165
1999 Firearms Season 175,925
1998 Firearms Season 194,670
2009 To The Minute 187,200
2008 Firearms Season 200,679
2007 Firearms Season 214,494
2006 Firearms Season 235,054
2005 Firearms Season 205,460
2004 Firearms Season 222,329
2003 Firearms Season 208,940
2002 Firearms Season 217,435
2001 Firearms Season 205,867
2000 Firearms Season 201,165
1999 Firearms Season 175,925
1998 Firearms Season 194,670
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Yeah, I saw an article that said the youth season set records this year. The overall "season" is more fragmented and spaced out. Totals are what count.
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[rquote=1484782&tid=103770&author=MellerAM]This is the Firearms Portion (normal novemer season only) numbers for the last 11 years. Had some good and bad. My main concern would be that there are a LOT more hunters out now than in 1998. *youth season began 2001*
2009 To The Minute 187,200
2008 Firearms Season 200,679
2007 Firearms Season 214,494
2006 Firearms Season 235,054
2005 Firearms Season 205,460
2004 Firearms Season 222,329
2003 Firearms Season 208,940
2002 Firearms Season 217,435
2001 Firearms Season 205,867
2000 Firearms Season 201,165
1999 Firearms Season 175,925
1998 Firearms Season 194,670 [/rquote]
Like you said, we didn't have a youth season then, so you kinda got to add the youth #'s to the total, don't ya? How about ML & archery season #'s, have they increased, stayed the same or gone down? The more seasons we've got, spreading the #'s into more sections of pie, will make other stats go down, won't it?
2009 To The Minute 187,200
2008 Firearms Season 200,679
2007 Firearms Season 214,494
2006 Firearms Season 235,054
2005 Firearms Season 205,460
2004 Firearms Season 222,329
2003 Firearms Season 208,940
2002 Firearms Season 217,435
2001 Firearms Season 205,867
2000 Firearms Season 201,165
1999 Firearms Season 175,925
1998 Firearms Season 194,670 [/rquote]
Like you said, we didn't have a youth season then, so you kinda got to add the youth #'s to the total, don't ya? How about ML & archery season #'s, have they increased, stayed the same or gone down? The more seasons we've got, spreading the #'s into more sections of pie, will make other stats go down, won't it?
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I would think archery has gone up just by what I have personally been seeing with people I know. A lot more people are harvesting deer with the bow around here. :
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[rquote=1484790&tid=103770&author=pinwheel][rquote=1484782&tid=103770&author=MellerAM]This is the Firearms Portion (normal novemer season only) numbers for the last 11 years. Had some good and bad. My main concern would be that there are a LOT more hunters out now than in 1998. *youth season began 2001*
2009 To The Minute 187,200
2008 Firearms Season 200,679
2007 Firearms Season 214,494
2006 Firearms Season 235,054
2005 Firearms Season 205,460
2004 Firearms Season 222,329
2003 Firearms Season 208,940
2002 Firearms Season 217,435
2001 Firearms Season 205,867
2000 Firearms Season 201,165
1999 Firearms Season 175,925
1998 Firearms Season 194,670 [/rquote]
Like you said, we didn't have a youth season then, so you kinda got to add the youth #'s to the total, don't ya? How about ML & archery season #'s, have they increased, stayed the same or gone down? The more seasons we've got, spreading the #'s into more sections of pie, will make other stats go down, won't it?[/rquote]
That is true, I wish MDC would show total year kills, I think that the harvest might be about stable but dont know. My only concern is that there are a lot more rifle hunters out now than 10 years ago. Are the low numbers a result of AR or are there just not as many deer?
My thinking is if the population is good then more hunters should mean more deer killed. I'm concerned that the conservation's way of determining deer population by kills is bad management. The kill numbers could hold stable with declining deer numbers if the number of hunters in the woods increases. I need one of those economics graphs.
2009 To The Minute 187,200
2008 Firearms Season 200,679
2007 Firearms Season 214,494
2006 Firearms Season 235,054
2005 Firearms Season 205,460
2004 Firearms Season 222,329
2003 Firearms Season 208,940
2002 Firearms Season 217,435
2001 Firearms Season 205,867
2000 Firearms Season 201,165
1999 Firearms Season 175,925
1998 Firearms Season 194,670 [/rquote]
Like you said, we didn't have a youth season then, so you kinda got to add the youth #'s to the total, don't ya? How about ML & archery season #'s, have they increased, stayed the same or gone down? The more seasons we've got, spreading the #'s into more sections of pie, will make other stats go down, won't it?[/rquote]
That is true, I wish MDC would show total year kills, I think that the harvest might be about stable but dont know. My only concern is that there are a lot more rifle hunters out now than 10 years ago. Are the low numbers a result of AR or are there just not as many deer?
My thinking is if the population is good then more hunters should mean more deer killed. I'm concerned that the conservation's way of determining deer population by kills is bad management. The kill numbers could hold stable with declining deer numbers if the number of hunters in the woods increases. I need one of those economics graphs.
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I agree Meller, that the MDC numbers are hard to glean information out of!
I just ran last year's totals, and it looks like it was 283,253... ALL seasons, methods, etc.
So far this year 244,257, again ALL methods. We still have antlerless, ML and the rest of the bow season to go.
I didn't compare buck kill, doe kill, etc. Looks like a morning's work I'[m not prepared to do:cheers:
I just ran last year's totals, and it looks like it was 283,253... ALL seasons, methods, etc.
So far this year 244,257, again ALL methods. We still have antlerless, ML and the rest of the bow season to go.
I didn't compare buck kill, doe kill, etc. Looks like a morning's work I'[m not prepared to do:cheers:
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