I love the badlands pack system i won years ago. I dont go hunting with out soem combination of the 5 packs with me. Since i dont go big game hunting out went i not used the bigest pack wiht meet shelfs on it. You know how menny hunting days i put in and so fare not a single problem wiht any of the stiching. I cary the kitchen sink wiht me as well and it handels the waight jsut fine.