CWD study will track deer movement

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  1. WBF

    WBF Wolf Brook Farms

    Oct 25, 2013
    They are trying to learn deer movement and densities. Not sick deer movement and densities. Where in the article does it say one word about tracking sick deer ?? You're adding that in. They are studying deer movement and that will tell them more about how the disease will move. It's not that hard to understand . Lol[/QUOTE]

    So sick deer are exempt? Sick deer aren't involved in this population that's moving ? Maybe MDC should just copy the study since only healthy deer move.... lol smh..

    Where in the article does it state they are not tracking sick deer????
     
  2. 20'

    20' Well-Known Member

    Aug 9, 2017
    They are trying to learn deer movement and densities. Not sick deer movement and densities. Where in the article does it say one word about tracking sick deer ?? You're adding that in. They are studying deer movement and that will tell them more about how the disease will move. It's not that hard to understand . Lol[/QUOTE]
    Wonder if they are tracking prions
     

  3. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    i will spare you most of the list . i will just say that when everything prion was offered it was because the scientists did not have the ability to look far enough into the underworld to find a sensible answer.THE ability to culture the bacteria whose finger prints [dna] are all over everything prion. will allow for a scientific analysis of the prudencys offered . A 100 percent live test offers a better chance to contain cwd in as small a area as possible while the other science is being done. MOST IMPORTANTLY THE ANSWERS TO HOW CWD MOVES FROM ONE ANIMAL TO ANOTHER THE BIOLOGICAL SYSTEM AND THE PLAYERS INVOLVES WILL NOW BE ABLE TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
    We can do science or be content with what we have been doing. The deer is to important to do that to.
     
  4. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    So sick deer are exempt? Sick deer aren't involved in this population that's moving ? Maybe MDC should just copy the study since only healthy deer move.... lol smh..

    Where in the article does it state they are not tracking sick deer????[/QUOTE]

    Are you trying to play your word game again ?? Lol

    Where in the article does it say they are tracking sick deer too gods sake. Lol. That's the part you guys made up. :rofl:
     
  5. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    The department of ag is filled with times when the smartness of man caused problems.If we do not learn from our mistakes we just keep repeating them.Nature has her way but the smartness of man knows no limits to what he can do to mess the natural systems up.
     
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  6. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    Wonder if they are tracking prions[/QUOTE]
    WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING HOW CWD GETS FROM ONE DEER TO THE NEXT IT DOES NOT TELL THEM MUCH.
     
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  7. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    If they arent tracking sick deer they arent getting a true result. Especially a sick deer with a degenerative brain disease. Does anyone really think that wont influence their movement patterns????? Lmao

    Also, what will happen if they cull the area? They need to answer that question. In MO it has appeared to have caused CWD to move farther and faster than amy other state.
     
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  8. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    Cost of progress and living in an advanced culture
     
  9. WBF

    WBF Wolf Brook Farms

    Oct 25, 2013
    Are you trying to play your word game again ?? Lol





    Where in the article does it say they are tracking sick deer too gods sake. Lol. That's the part you guys made up. :rofl:[/QUOTE]

    Is it a CWD study? Yes it's in the title of the article.

    Do the scientists have a way of excluding CWD positive deer from movement in the study? NO....

    Only a FOOL would believe that only healthy deer move. Healthy Deer and CWD will be moving freely throughout this study. Unless they instituted a shoot/kill on site like MDC had done . How will indiscriminately killing deer effect a study like this one???

    CWD infected deer moving around the landscape is only one such way of the infection moving. Deer urine/feces doesn't move much at all.
     
  10. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    That time came and went before it got trucked all across the country.We are now faced with only real solutions being able to get us out of this mess.But there is a sliver lining , many ailments of man himself will now get a do over theory to cure the diseases. TAKING THE SHORT CUT WITH SCRAPES AND MAD COW HAS PUT US WHERE WE ARE.
     
  11. WBF

    WBF Wolf Brook Farms

    Oct 25, 2013
    MDC has a study going on right now in my county Texas and many others in the state. These deer are affixed with gps collars. So MDC has the ability to track and obtain blood samples of these deer involved in the study. Be curious to know if they are testing the deer for CWD?
     
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  12. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    Prudency is not science . Extermination by a kinder word is EXTERMINATION. Not being totally honest with the citizens is a mistake.
     
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  13. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    THE QUESTIONABLE WORD IS ADVANCED.
     
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  14. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    Dont know how you call it anything but advanced....
     
  15. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    So sick deer are exempt? Sick deer aren't involved in this population that's moving ? Maybe MDC should just copy the study since only healthy deer move.... lol smh..

    Where in the article does it state they are not tracking sick deer????[/QUOTE]
    To be of a help with cwd they should be studying the movement of dead deer, NO ? In a article from Arkansas before the first case was found . a deer took up residence at the Ponca station where it kept SHOWING STRANGER AND STRANGER behavior. IT ended up dead in water.Number one Arkansas can show a deer that died from cwd number 2 if the carcasses are involved in the spread cwd should tend to move downstream.UP HERE where streams are just starting out the movement is appearing to be from one drainage to another. HEAVY CULLING WHERE CWD IS FOUND ONLY LEADS TO DEER THAT WOULD NOT HAVE CAME THERE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF THE LOWER POPULATION DENSITY.
     
  16. WBF

    WBF Wolf Brook Farms

    Oct 25, 2013
    Might be times where "advanced" attempts don't necessarily lead to an advancement in outcomes.
     
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  17. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    it would be my hope that with the new live test that they can add that in. The Missouri study is taking place in areas that were thought to be cwd free.
     
  18. WBF

    WBF Wolf Brook Farms

    Oct 25, 2013
    To be of a help with cwd they should be studying the movement of dead deer, NO ? In a article from Arkansas before the first case was found . a deer took up residence at the Ponca station where it kept SHOWING STRANGER AND STRANGER behavior. IT ended up dead in water.Number one Arkansas can show a deer that died from cwd number 2 if the carcasses are involved in the spread cwd should tend to move downstream.UP HERE where streams are just starting out the movement is appearing to be from one drainage to another. HEAVY CULLING WHERE CWD IS FOUND ONLY LEADS TO DEER THAT WOULD NOT HAVE CAME THERE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF THE LOWER POPULATION DENSITY.[/QUOTE]

    Study all of it. MDC has the money, tax base to be a leader on this subject. The fact that they are holding meetings disguised as Everything CWD related and not entertaining questions from the exact entity that helps fund them is troubling....
     
  19. WBF

    WBF Wolf Brook Farms

    Oct 25, 2013
    I didn't know that negative CWD areas where a predicate to the study?

    Regardless one would think that CWD would be top on the list for any study the MDC has ongoing or in the immediate future.
     
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  20. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    Study all of it. MDC has the money, tax base to be a leader on this subject. The fact that they are holding meetings disguised as Everything CWD related and not entertaining questions from the exact entity that helps fund them is troubling....[/QUOTE]
    DESIGN FOR CONSERVATION IS THE FUNDING AND MANDATE TO USE SCIENCE TO PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS NATURAL RESOURCES.but we have not invested in the facilities , the specialized personnel and the equipment to protect our great natural resources.It is a rainy day and many more will come. A lot of good things have come from that money but we need some of it for the reason we have design for conservation.