CWD study will track deer movement

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  1. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    Are you not already looking foolish enough ?
     
  2. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    I don't think I'm the one who keeps bringing up Bastians as yet uninvented test and claiming it's a live test for testing dead deer. You've cornered that market
     

  3. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    Just an FYI an uninvented test for testing dead deer may well require a piece of brain tissue. Not a likely live test prospect. Lol
     
  4. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    Again, a LIVE test would work on a DEAD deer as well. A LIVE test wouldnt require brain tissue.....
     
  5. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    on a method to propagate Spiroplasma species isolated from TSE-affected animals, a feat that had previously eluded them. It's already "a workable live diagnostic test for TSE,"
    If you wish to claim the intellectual superiority of a 4th grader you have work to do on your reading comprehension. I have spoon fed you information which you apparently can not comprehend.
    THE TEST THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO HUNTERS so they can know in the field whether a deer has cwd will be available in less then one or two years from Dec. 2017. That test will do two things , it will relive mdc of the tests that will need to be performed in a ever increasing quantity as cwd spreads with a more reliable test if they think people are going to going to eat the deer they kill.
    2. If mdc does not come up with a real solution based plan they will be bypassed
    Bastian has released his breakthrough tools so others can get to work with finding answers instead of prudency,s .In the case of conservation they can go to work identifying the players and the biological system we are dealing with.All they have to do is click on the contact Dr Bastian tab.
     
  6. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    You should share that with Bastian so he doesn't put his new test off for 2 years. He must not even know he already had a viable live test.

    You and hawk are on the same wavelength . You both seem to know how a test that isn't even invented yet works. You should jump in your deloreans and run to the sporting goods store and pick some up. Lol
     
  7. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    Its not hard to understand that if a live test is developed, it wont require brain tissue....

    If theres a live test, it will also be able to detect cwd in a dead deer.

    These are very simple things to understand... maybe some people have given themselves to many live tests and dont have much brain tissue left...
     
  8. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

     
  9. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    Henry in his desperation to deny progress from being made to understand and defeat cwd should be asking the correct questions but he is in LOCK DOWN.
    The real unspecified question at this time is whether he has the how to to do in a timely manner a live test where deer can be caught in a trap tested and only the infected ones removed.
    He does have a test capable of testing , say the flesh eating Beatles from a infected carcass to know whether they are involved in the biological system spreading cwd.etc. He does have the tools to tell whether any bug is a carrier of the bacterium that is the trigger for cwd whether it is in contact with cwd or not.
    Bastian has given science the tools to find where the bacterium travels which gives possible solutions. Bastian has given science the tools to show that cwd is a disease of the digestive tract not that other hocus pock us.
    There is now a lot that can be found out , the time of standing there like a deer in the headlights is over.
     
  10. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    What Bastian hasn't given is a live test.
     
  11. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
     
  12. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    THE QUOTE YOU SPEAK OF IS BASTIAN,S NOT HAWK,S OR MINE. i AM BEGINNING TO WORRY ABOUT YOU , maybe you should check your blood pressure.
     
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  13. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    Bastian said he hopes to have a test for hunters to use in one to two years. Your the one that turned that into an already developed live test.
     
  14. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

  15. bajabill

    bajabill BDR529

    Feb 16, 2012
    East Central MO
    Needs approval before it can be offered to the public.
     
  16. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    Not sure how someone can be so confused about how a live test would work if developed..... kinda shows a lack of reasoning skills.
     
  17. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    No Henry i have broken it down into smaller and smaller offerings but it is the word of the scientist who says there is already a workable live test. Henry the test for hunters to use in the field has nothing to do with BASTIAN HAVING A WORKABLE LIVE TEST NOW.
    here is the article for you again so you can again try to comprehend it.
    Bacterial Test for TSEs? (J Neuropathol Exp Neurol)
    Quixotic researcher who disbelieves prion theory claims a breakthrough
    • by MedPage Today Staff November 16, 2017


    Authors of a new paper appearing the Journal of Neuropathology and Experimental Neurology claim to have developed a platform for diagnosing and perhaps preventing transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSE) such as Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease without looking for malformed prion proteins.

    It's the latest in a 40-year program by Frank Bastian, MD, of Louisiana State University, aiming to show that Spiroplasma bacteria -- not prions -- are responsible for TSEs. In a 1979 paper, he reported finding the organisms in autopsied samples from Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease patients, and in subsequent research he made similar findings in animal TSEs including scrapie and chronic wasting disease (CWD).

    Now, Bastian and colleagues report on a method to propagate Spiroplasma species isolated from TSE-affected animals, a feat that had previously eluded them. It's already "a workable live diagnostic test for TSE," they wrote, and could pave the way for a vaccine.

    In an email to MedPage Today, Bastian used the "B" word -- breakthrough.
    I do not mind re-posting the stuff , i expect some here do wish to educate themselves .
     
  18. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    It needs to be invented first. These guys have Bastian inventing a live test and he doesn't even know it. The only live test now is a biopsy of the tonsil or anal mucousal and then conventional testing of the tissue which takes weeks. I don't get where they make this stuff up from.
     
  19. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    The entire article was about them having invented a workable live test ALREADY.... wow
     
  20. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    They claim. It doesn't exist.