CWD Hot Zone Letter For "Culling" to Landowners

Discussion in 'Whitetails General' started by deep woods goat hunter, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    A corral with dividers like an ice cube tray and an imaginary instant test. And you think I'm having an attack ??? Lol
     
  2. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    UP HERE THEY TESTED AT PROCESSORS AND ROAD SIDE CHECK STATIONS BUT HAVING THE DEER TESTED WAS UP TO THE PERSON. at the processors they were trying to check all deer brought in. Having the mandatory checking of all deer killed the first 2 days of rifle season was a attempt to get a good sample across the area but since we how have telecheck some are probably claiming the kill in a county that is not under mandatory check-in or delay checking the deer till Monday.
     

  3. buckstop660

    buckstop660 Crossbow Specialist

    Jul 17, 2014
    NW Mo.
    Should have kept check stations
     
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  4. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    HAVING A IN FIELD TEST THAT HUNTERS CAN USE WITHIN 2 YEARS, It appears there is already a test that is different then the prion test in that it picks up the trigger of cwd before there are any prions if prions even occur in the subject.Trying localized extermination is only a way to spread cwd into new areas as the map comparing Wisconsin to Illinois shows and Illinois admits to on there site. That is confirmed if you look at the map of positives in Arkansas. Over twenty percent positive but the map looks like swarming bees.
    Trapping and removing only the positive does 4 things 1 it keeps cwd from spreading into new areas as fast and 2 it reduces the number of sick ones which hopefully keeps the percentage testing positive low. 3 it is a more effective method to examine more of the deer present 4 such a plan would get those who manage there land for the wildlife to allow science to be done.That is a real plan collecting real data , while keeping cwd in as small a area as possible so when real science comes up with real answers the problem will not be really as bad.
     
  5. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    YES AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING THE DEER UP WHEN THEY WERE SUBMITTED FOR THE CWD TEST.
     
  6. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    Sorry to tell you that today St Clair is back, today we are back to 15 positives this testing season. BUT YOU DO GET ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE ONLY GIVEN TO COUNTIES WHERE A POSITIVE HAS OCCURRED.
     
  7. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    A field test for hunters to use is what is being "hoped" for in 2 years.

    Unless it's common for hunters to catch deer alive before killing them , I have no idea how you have construed that into a live test. I don't think I'm the one having an attack.
     
  8. antlercrazed

    antlercrazed Well-Known Member

    Sep 8, 2010
    North Missouri
    I guess if they do come up with a vaccine one day we will all be hunting with air bows and rifles and shooting every fawn we encounter up with the juice ha
     
  9. thwackaddict

    thwackaddict Senior Member

    Nov 1, 2007
    NW Missouri
    Sad part of this is that we aren't in control of it. We like to think we are, but in reality until some miracle cure comes along this disease is probably gonna wreak havoc on our deer.

    My cow herd just went through an Anaplasmosis attack. Wiped out 30% of them. This is a disease that has been around forever and they still don't have a good vaccine or good way to prevent it.

    I have always wondered if this is about a 200 year cycle that swings back around. Hopefully we don't lose our deer to hunt and eat.
     
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  10. bajabill

    bajabill BDR529

    Feb 16, 2012
    East Central MO
    I think one of us has been hanging out with the caterpillar and hittin the hookah too much.
     
  11. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    If the hunter field test becomes reality you can say goodbye to MDC getting new positives. If people shoot a deer and it tests positive itll be a SSS situation and nevwr show up in the MDC records. Probably why so mamy are dismissing it.
     
  12. hazelvillebucks

    hazelvillebucks Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2014
    Yes as we wait for a real plan for them to become involved in the slaying of the dragon, week after week ,month after month , year after year, the great faith we had in the great MDC wanes.One might have been able to make the deer in the headlight defense but now we have a deal breaker.
    While you do not agree that the racoon has become a pest up here and is leading to a less diverse ecosystem the science of numbers shows it is .MDC has not yet joined the partnership with us to correct that situation. The same thing is being done with cwd. Kinder words does not change the fact that if a person does the right thing and gets a deer tested a positive is only going to bring on the premature loss of deer hunting where one hunts.The evidence on the sheme is that additional culling lowers deer density but deer density levels out as deer from the outside move in which puts them in contact with cwd that they then take into areas that were cwd free.
    ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINATION IS A BIG FEAR.cwd escaped the pens at Heartland after three years of almost double the average rain. The try to kill cwd back into the pen took place when the ehd was also destroying the deer. If a cwd deer caught ehd one would expect the bodies would have ended up in the creeks and rivers spreading cwd downstream but we are seeing the lateral jumping from one watershed to the next . Could be that there were not enough cwd positive to show environmental contamination from that example.
    But now we have a new tool for mdc to do its job. Among a long list of things they now have on there plate, they have access to cwd positive materials.We have to fill in the story of how cwd moves from one deer to nest , the players involved. Is decaying carcasses having a roll or not ? Are the flesh eating Beatles the insect host involved in the spread of cwd ? When it comes to cwd there are way more questions then answers , we now have a way to find answers , mdc has to become involved in finding those answers . THERE IS A LOT OF SCIENTIFIC STUFF TO CHECK OUT DON,T CONTINUE TO GIVE US LAME PRUDENCY.
     
  13. 20'

    20' Well-Known Member

    Aug 9, 2017

    I bet the 1st Monday of the season had an unusually higher kill total...wierd
     
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  14. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    I thought Monday check ins would increase with mandatory testing. I asked that question. They had checked because they thought it might , but it hadn't.
     
  15. 20'

    20' Well-Known Member

    Aug 9, 2017
    Interesting, I would hope hunter's would follow the code, but I think the MDC saw a spike in Monday kill totals compared to years past, but who knows.
     
  16. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    MDC isnt going to join your fight against raccoons. Isnt going to happen.
     
  17. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    I guess they just told us they didn't . Lol
     
  18. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    Most people are probably smart enough, if they are smart enough to try to game the system to begin with, to not call in a deer first thing Monday morning in a mandatory check area. Do it at 10 pm Tuesday night, or Wednesday and no red flags go up
     
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  19. bajabill

    bajabill BDR529

    Feb 16, 2012
    East Central MO
    I think Illinois is doing a fine job in holding their CWD infection zones
     
  20. 20'

    20' Well-Known Member

    Aug 9, 2017

    yes, a more accurate statement would have been , I bet the kill 3's spiked early in the week!