Applying RoundUP to food plots?

Discussion in 'Deer Management, Habitat & Conservation' started by cisco, Mar 14, 2006.

  1. cisco

    cisco New Member

    269
    May 24, 2005
    Arnold, MO
    I have several food plots that I want to spray with RoundUp this spring and then replant. My farm is in northern Mo. How early can I spray them "effectively" to kill everthing. I was thinking of spraying the weekend of the youth turkey season in early April. Is this too early?
     
  2. Redonthehead

    Redonthehead Active Member

    May 2, 2005
    Springfield
    Most will tell you its too early. However I have sprayed short but greening-up grass in March with Roundup with a sticker added and successfully killed it. It will take longer though. What vegetation do you have in the plot you want to kill?
     

  3. rat

    rat Legbone

    Dec 13, 2005
    Plants must be actively photosynthetic, that is to say actively growing and not under stress for maximum control with roundup. You can spray Roundup and replant as soon as 2 days after treatment and there will be no adverse effects from the treatment. I would wait until you get soil temps that have the plants actively growing, make your rup apps and sow your plots a couple of days later. Dont worry that you dont see symptoms on treated plants at this point.. if you applied the roundup at the correct rates, anything that you sprayed post-emergent will DIE.
     
  4. rat

    rat Legbone

    Dec 13, 2005
    Agreed Red.. You will get some level of control on winter annuals when weather is cool, but there is no hurry at this point. I have plenty of experience with roundup and similar chemistries so u2u me and I'll give you the gospel! :wave:
     
  5. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    What type of weeds or grasses are you trying to kill??? If you have cocklebur or foxtail problems,,its way to early to spray. What are you wanting to plant???? There are alot of variables that could make a big difference as to when you need to spray.

    :cheers::cheers:
     
  6. cisco

    cisco New Member

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    May 24, 2005
    Arnold, MO
    These are older clover plots that have been taken over with mostly fescue and misc weeds. I'm thinking about planting a corn / forage soybean misture.
     
  7. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    Perhaps a straight roundup ready soybean plot so you can spray atleast twice with roundup would help get rid of your fescue.

    :cheers::cheers:
     
  8. TOBRYAN

    TOBRYAN Well-Known Member

    Dec 4, 2002
    Liberty, Mo
    Get the most bang for your buck and let everything get a little green..
    If its green it will die (2 qts/acre)
    If its brown and not growing it can come up a day after you spray...
     
  9. rat

    rat Legbone

    Dec 13, 2005
    Biologic has a mixture of roundup ready corn and soybeans that they are hawking called Biomax. Dont know much about it but I have rowcrop related experience with roundup ready and, done right, this is very effective and cost efficient technology.


    http://www.mossyoakbiologic.com/products/biomaxx/biomaxx.asp
     
  10. MUHunter

    MUHunter New Member

    777
    Aug 13, 2003
    NE MO
    if you want corn and soybean, just as rat said, try to find some RR corn and some RR beans and you will be able to clean that plot up pretty good and don't have to worry about spraying until everything is growing good.
     
  11. riverbottomhunter

    riverbottomhunter Well-Known Member

    Sep 27, 2005
    Chariton Co.
    Before you go out and buy roundup check with your local MFA or other feed store. They usually have a cheaper brand of roundup that works just as good and will save you alot of $.
     
  12. rat

    rat Legbone

    Dec 13, 2005
    Well.. now that that cat is out of the bag..

    Look for the ingredient n-phosphonomethyl glycine, or it may just say "glyphosate" and should be around 41% active. For quirt and look on food plots, ect. these formulations will work fine.

    For RR rowcrops though, Roundup branded products are the only ones that guarantee performance and will provide re-spray if control is not achieved. After investing in the seed purchase, I wouldnt take chances with other products cause they wont guarantee results. RR seeds and Roundup branded chemistries are still the most economical soybean acre you can grow. :wave:
     
  13. riverbottomhunter

    riverbottomhunter Well-Known Member

    Sep 27, 2005
    Chariton Co.
    I forgot the name of the stuff I used last year. Picked it up at the ag center. The difference in price was around $25 per jug if I remember right. I used it to get rid of 8 ft tall horseweeds and it knocked them out bigtime. Just make sure you use a sticker with whatever brand you use. I use a squirt or 2 of liquid soap. Other people use a small amount of deisel fuel. Also make sure you don't apply it right before a rain or late in the evening when the dew is setting in. I think it needs 2 hours to set in.
     
  14. Redonthehead

    Redonthehead Active Member

    May 2, 2005
    Springfield
    Ah Ha! a Monsanto secret agent in our midst!
     
  15. Whitemarsh

    Whitemarsh New Member

    Jan 1, 2006
    Greene Co.

    Rat, you sound just like my local Monsanto rep.
     
  16. MUHunter

    MUHunter New Member

    777
    Aug 13, 2003
    NE MO
    :hysterical::hysterical::bangin:
     
  17. rat

    rat Legbone

    Dec 13, 2005
    Not quite.. but I play one on tv! hehe
     
  18. cisco

    cisco New Member

    269
    May 24, 2005
    Arnold, MO
    Rat - Biomaxx is exactly what I was thinking of planting in these plots. I have several other plots established in Ladino clover and just wanted to try something different. Plus I like the idea of overseeding the Biomaxx in the fall with brassica so that you have something to attract the deer in the late season after the beans and corn have been devoured.

    I have used the generic brand of roundup in the past with success. However, I have never used it in early April.
     
  19. TOBRYAN

    TOBRYAN Well-Known Member

    Dec 4, 2002
    Liberty, Mo
    I use a product called bucaneer its half as cheep as roundup and is 41% glyph. I can remember if I add a little sticker (adjuvent) to it or not.
    I looked at the biomax...but its pretty high..Im going with rr beans at $35/bag and spray twice.

    the cockleburs are liking my farm!!:cool3:
     
  20. rat

    rat Legbone

    Dec 13, 2005
    Almost all glyphosate products (except those that are labeled specifically for aquatic use) have surfactants, or spreader/stickers/adjuvants/snake oils, whatever you want to call them, incorporated into the formulation. They are not specifically listed because the blends are proprietary and listed as inert ingredients. There is more in some generic roundups than others and some are more effective than others but for the most part, you dont need to add additional stuff if you follow the label.