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Terry, can you help us out a little? Thats a whole lot of reading, can you capsulate it for us? Is that possible without reading the entire document? Thanks in Advance!
 

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Terry, can you help us out a little? Thats a whole lot of reading, can you capsulate it for us? Is that possible without reading the entire document? Thanks in Advance!
basically, APHIS et al, are trying to get the shooting pens under control, and movement there from, with a _voluntary_ movement program. in my opinion, this will be futile as a voluntary program. hell, they can't even get the voluntary mad cow feed ban, that went mandatory in August 1997, they can't even get that stopped under a mandatory program now, so any voluntary program simply will not work...just my opinion...see all the mad cow, mad deer, etc. protein in commerce since the infamous mad cow feed ban was put into effect, and you will see what I mean $$$

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see comments to this docket...

Greetings Hunters et al,

I thought some of you might be interested in seeing some of the comments to docket ;

APHIS-2006-0118-0100 Chronic Wasting Disease Herd Certification Program and Interstate Movement of Farmed or Captive Deer, Elk, and Moose

you fair chase hunters better be paying attention, don't just sit on your behind, get the pen out, write these officials. or there will be not more fair chase hunting, it will all be shooting pens.

see what the shooting pens are submitting ;

http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketBrowser;rpp=25;po=0;dct=N%2BFR%2BPR%2BO%2BPS;D=APHIS-2006-0118

Wednesday, January 01, 2014

APHIS-2006-0118-0100 Chronic Wasting Disease Herd Certification Program and Interstate Movement of Farmed or Captive Deer, Elk, and Moose

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/01/aphis-2006-0118-0100-chronic-wasting.html

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shooting pens comments to APHIS-2006-0118-0100

Review: Version 23 of Chronic Wasting Disease Program Standards "Better than Version 22, but still Burdensome to Industry" from the shooting pens forum

greetings Missouri Hunters et al,

thought some of you might be interested in the shooting pen forum and how they are commenting on the APHIS-2006-0118-0100 Chronic Wasting Disease Herd Certification Program and Interstate Movement of Farmed or Captive Deer, Elk, and Moose.

seems the shooting pens are still whining about cwd regulations and that everyone are just out to get them, while at the same time, they are counting all the money they are making on sales of their livestock cervids.
seems there whole goal is to just ignore CWD, from what I read.

seems the shooting pens still can't seem to see the forest for the trees $$$

just my opinion.

I urge all hunters, and folks that love the wild, to read some these comments. here are just a few ;
Review: Version 23 of Chronic Wasting Disease Program Standards "Better than Version 22, but still Burdensome to Industry"

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>>> I appreciate all that has been done this far but the fact remains, this industry is still in big trouble whether we want to admit it or not. <<<

I have agreed with you on many things on here and to a point i do on this statement but i dont see where our ship has sunk when we just had a auction that sold 200 whitetails for 1.3 million dollars. To me that sounds like a winner. If some have folded because of this, Well that sucks but i have heard of none. We do not have cows, we have game animals so we will always be regulated, To a point! Always!! There are alot of young guys just getting into this business that can and will be a success.

Yes we have been thrown under the bus by the Depts to the public by lie after lie. They have cwd as a pawn and untill we change that nothing will change. It may suck but if it takes us to get a cwd blood test, prove it works and put it into our program to shove this down their throats then i say we do it.

Yes there are choices and if some want to take their fence down and sell out, well thats their choice. I will say it untill i am blue in the face that we need to take a percent out of every deer or semen sale to go into a fund for us to use as needed. I mean come on! Its 125 grand for a years worth of blood work research! How many freakin animals have sold at auction for that much? 1 animal!!!nn This should be petty cash for us to come up with. We just sold 1.3 million in sales. If $1.50... a cup of coffee.. was takin of the top of each sale, how much is that? Or 1% of 1.3 million. Now times that times the 5.6.7.8 auctions we have a year. Now take the same off each sale on the exchange. Now how many thousands do we have in the kitty to fund stuff like this when we need it. We all sell something. One sale at the top 30 last year generated how many thousands in sales in 5 minutes? 6 figure maybe?

I think we are missing the boat on this one. It works for the beef guys!

Four Season Whitetails

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Posted January 08 2014 - 08:56 PM

CWD has been their weapon of choice but if it wasn't that, it would be something else. They will use anything they think will work. This fight has never been about the spread of disease. It has been about eliminating the competition and they will stop at nothing to do that. I've been up against these guys since 1980 and nothing has changed. Beat them in court, even if it takes 15 years like it did me and then they will leave you alone. Making comments, writing letters and having meetings is great but it won't save this industry.

David L. Autry Executive Director, TN Elk Breeders Association Lifetime Member, TN Elk Breeders and Southeastern Game Ranchers Associations Not a member of NAEBA, After 23 years as a member and after serving 5 years on the Board of Directors, I sold my Lifetime Membership back to NAEBA.

Review: Version 23 of Chronic Wasting Disease Program Standards "Better than Version 22, but still Burdensome to Industry" by the shooting pens forum

http://www.deerforums.org/index.php...n-22-but-still-burdensome-to-industry"/page-2

http://www.deerforums.org/index.php...sion-22-but-still-burdensome-to-industryâ€Â/

http://www.deerforums.org/index.php?/forum/24-announcements-and-news/

http://www.deerforums.org/

Wednesday, January 01, 2014

APHIS-2006-0118-0100 Chronic Wasting Disease Herd Certification Program and Interstate Movement of Farmed or Captive Deer, Elk, and Moose

http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/01/aphis-2006-0118-0100-chronic-wasting.html
 

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By reading the snippets posted above it looks like a lot of in-fighting going on among the game ranchers and thier organizations looks like 4 different organizations with each thier own agenda......
 
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