"AirBow" to be legal in Virginia

Discussion in 'Whitetails General' started by beanpile, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. antlercrazed

    antlercrazed Well-Known Member

    Sep 8, 2010
    North Missouri
    It was sarcasm because of this post about adding air bows and going to one buck rule.But I would say it is sad that there is no doubt more mature bucks in the area I hunt in MS per square mile than there is in North Missouri in our area.There is mature bucks and a good number of them but the sheer number of 4.5 or older bucks in the AG/Delta area of Mississippi is pretty ridiculous.
     
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  2. buckstop660

    buckstop660 Crossbow Specialist

    Jul 17, 2014
    NW Mo.
    And that's with antler restrictions
     

  3. techteacher

    techteacher Land buying addiction Lifetime Supporting Member

    Sep 11, 2009
    Troy,
    I blame it on to many oos hunters not weapon choice. :elmer::moon:
     
  4. Mailman

    Mailman Well-Known Member

    Feb 2, 2005
    Blue Springs Mo
    Saw a box of airbow arrows today at Cargo Largo in Independence. Get em while they are hot!!!
     
  5. antlercrazed

    antlercrazed Well-Known Member

    Sep 8, 2010
    North Missouri
    Lot of people feel that way but when you look at the numbers it's mainly season placement,using rifles in the Rut,and concentrating resident hunters in certain areas and having a lot of tags available over the counter to kill deer for everyone not just non residents.Mercer county had like a buck shot per 200 acres or something crazy like that.Basically in a nut shell the season is designed to control the population and it does a good job of what it's designed to do
     
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  6. techteacher

    techteacher Land buying addiction Lifetime Supporting Member

    Sep 11, 2009
    Troy,
    I really don't care about oss hunters I just like to raz them a little. I know they are not the issue either.
     
  7. antlercrazed

    antlercrazed Well-Known Member

    Sep 8, 2010
    North Missouri
    It's all good,but you would be surprised we receive a whole lot of blame lol.I have done the resident thing for a little while,I learned quickly that most farmers hate deer and them nor a handful of other folks exactly adhere to the rule book on harvesting deer legally or reporting lol
     
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  8. henry

    henry Fan Boy aka Mr Twisty and

    I have a case on order. That and a compressor on a trailer and a box of 300 yrd targets.
     
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  9. 20'

    20' Well-Known Member

    Aug 9, 2017
    Keep telling yourself that, I'll give the reloading part, but any single shot gun take more to reload that a semi, or pump gun!
     
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  10. antlercrazed

    antlercrazed Well-Known Member

    Sep 8, 2010
    North Missouri
    The disadvantages people talk about with a crossbow are purely conveince based.Weight,bulkiness,etc meaning nothing when describing the lethality of a weapon.If someone totes it to the woods they could care less about those other disadvantages because it doesn't matter when you have a deer standing 40 yards they are going to kill it at a higher success rate then someone shooting any style of vertical bow.When dealing with success rates the more accurate,easier to shoot weapon wins every time regardless of weight and bulkiness.I'm fine with crossbows but I find it weird that people act like it's such a pain in the Ass to use when it's almost exactly like toting a single shot gun that only shoots around 70 yards.I feel like as bad as some people act like a crossbow is to use hunting that you have to be in extremely good shape and have someone help you pack it to the tree lol
     
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  11. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri
    Well, I know that in the case of my comments, the bulky, heavy comments are in comparison to compounds. I've never said you needed super human strenght to tote one into the woods. But, they are more to deal with than a compound. Maybe it's because compounds are so small and lighweight more than xbows are heavy.

    You still "should" wait to get a deer inside 40 yds. If at that point, you are more effective at killing the animal, I think that's a good thing. Too many deer get gigged and not recovered if you ask me. :wave1:
     
  12. antlercrazed

    antlercrazed Well-Known Member

    Sep 8, 2010
    North Missouri
    I'm not against it just don't think it's fair to say they are hard to use or not easier to shoot.I have shot both and Had I been using a crossbow all these years in Missouri I would have multiple nice bucks on the wall.Im comfortable shooting 45-50 yards all day with the crossbow but with my compound about 40 is my max,too many variables come into play past that for me because I shoot low poundage due to shoulder issues
     
  13. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri
    I have no intention to shoot deer past 35 yds with the one I just bought. On my property, I have never killed one, or even take a shot at one more than 25 yds away with a bow. Cover is just too thick.

    Yes, I do think they will be easier to hunt with, the question has always been how much easier will it make things. In my case, I don't think it's going to allow me to kill a deer, I wouldn't have with my compound in hand. Especially given that archery shots on my place are always so close.
     
  14. antlercrazed

    antlercrazed Well-Known Member

    Sep 8, 2010
    North Missouri
    In my case it's makes even the 40 yard An in shots easier for me.Like I said I Shoot low poundage so I have a 20,30,and 40 pin.With the crossbows I have used I can shoot to 40 with 1 pin Basically so my margin of error is much greater with my compound shooting 250fps vs well over 400fps.So knowing the exact range is really important with my compound,not so much with the crossbow.But anyway that's just in my case I'm sure others will be different
     
  15. buckstop660

    buckstop660 Crossbow Specialist

    Jul 17, 2014
    NW Mo.
    Does it matter when a deer is standing at 40yds, as in your example and you have decided to shoot which bow you use? Are you saying its better to shoot a weapon that in your definition is less likely to make a clean kill. It seems to sound like wounding and lost deer is just fine as long as you are shooting a vertical bow. However its bad if you are able to make a better shot with a crossbow. I feel you probably should use the weapon you feel competent
    with. Crossbows are heavier and more awkward but all of that is isn't material after you are on stand.
     
  16. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri
    Is that a bad thing? Isn't it better, that if you are going to sling an arrow/bolt at a deer if you make a good shot, and a humane as possible kill? I don't see that as a bad thing personally.

    I'd rather make a quick clean kill, than make a marginal hit, with a less humane end to the animal.... :wave1:
     
  17. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    And this is why success rates with crossbows are so much higher in states that have kept track.
     
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  18. callaojoe

    callaojoe Máistir an pointe hocht.

    Jan 21, 2004
    N/C Missouri
    And, how much of the success rate can you accredit to a successful recover, over lost deer?

    Probably about the level in the differences, which have been marginal.... :wave1:
     
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  19. Hawk

    Hawk Well-Known Member Sponsor

    Oct 15, 2009
    I honestly doubt there is much difference given what ive seen on several sites. The crossbow guys are wounding at about the same clip as the vertical guys it seems.

    Its quite a bit more than marginal, unless you think 33-50% higher success rates is marginal.....
     
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