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A few pics from the reconstructed prairie strips

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They are cp33s . We planted them over 15 years ago . They are doing well with an ongoing maintenance system.
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the best bang for the buck program they have come up with.Especially if they are along a ozage hedge row.
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Especially if they are along a cut down Osage hedge row......
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Looks like some real beautiful land Henry.
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Looking good! Also that big cedar tree in the second to last pic sure stands out to me as one heck of a bow stand, man big cedars like that are perfect for concealment and cover scent and u don't usually need any steps since they are already there
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Looking Good Todd! Strong Work!
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Those look fantastic. If they are large they are excellent habitat. If small they are a predator buffet.
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EZRA said:
Looking good! Also that big cedar tree in the second to last pic sure stands out to me as one heck of a bow stand, man big cedars like that are perfect for concealment and cover scent and u don't usually need any steps since they are already there
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We make sure they are maintained. That means burning them every other year so they dont get rank and borderline useless. Some people are afraid to burn and their so called wildlife haven turns into nothing more than a giant grass turd.

I have a hollow spot trimmed out on the right side of that tree and shoveled a flat spot for a blind to set up against it. I have passed up a lot of deer from that spot. :D
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There a several good options for managing CRP grass. We have used all of them on our acres with excellent results.
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I would caution anyone with plans to have a long term stand of prairie against thinking they can maintain habitat quality without fire at intervals . When the stand matures nothing else other than haying it will remove the thatch build up that robs it of much of its habitat quality.
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henry said:
I would caution anyone with plans to have a long term stand of prairie against thinking they can maintain habitat quality without fire at intervals . When the stand matures nothing else other than haying it will remove the thatch build up that robs it of much of its habitat quality.
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I guess that why farmers dont disc under crop residue and burn it off instead.....
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Hawk please dont try to **** up another thread where people who have actually experienced managing a grass stand try to share what they have learned.

What you just said proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you have no experience to share. Lightly disking a stand of mature tall grass doesnt disk under thatch build up . Once the stand starts filling in and maturing light disking does almost nothing because the massive amount if grass and residue prevents much soil disturbance. Disking the residue build up under is out of the question without doing major damage to the stand by using a heavy implement and disking aggressively.
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henry said:
Hawk please dont try to **** up another thread where people who have actually experienced managing a grass stand try to share what they have learned.

What you just said proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you have no experience to share. Lightly disking a stand of mature tall grass doesnt disk under thatch build up . Once the stand starts filling in and maturing light disking does almost nothing because the massive amount if grass and residue prevents much soil disturbance. Disking the residue build up under is out of the question without doing major damage to the stand by using a heavy implement and disking aggressively.
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Well yeah, if you dont own say, a brush hog.....

I could go on all day posting resources recommending light discing as an acceptable substitute for fire....
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Nothing worse than an idiot with a computer who doesn't know what he is reading.

For those of you who may have interest. Not a single snippet in the fictional post addresses trying to get a disk to remove heavy thatch and residue in a mature stand of wsg. Not light stands of grass. Anyone who has tried to disk thatch from shorter stands of grass under knows what I am talking about.

Nwtf has great info about the importance of burning mature wsg stands to maintain habitat quality.
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henry said:
Nothing worse than an idiot with a computer who doesn't know what he is reading.

For those of you who may have interest. Not a single snippet in the fictional post addresses trying to get a disk to remove heavy thatch and residue in a mature stand of wsg. Not light stands of grass. Anyone who has tried to disk thatch from shorter stands of grass under knows what I am talking about.

Nwtf has great info about the importance of burning mature wsg stands to maintain habitat quality.
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Several of those specifically address thick stands of mature WSG and light disking.

Again, because I have done this to mature stand I know how it works. Ive burned them, disced them, mowed then disced, sprayed, etc. All are acceptable and do a great job at setting back grass and adding diversity to the stand.

Dont get all butthurt because I added something meaningful and useful to a thread. You really are easily triggered.

Btw... can you find a resource that states that light discing is not a good practice for mature CRP WSG??.....???? Didnt think so.

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henry said:
I would caution anyone with plans to have a long term stand of prairie against thinking they can maintain habitat quality without fire at intervals . When the stand matures nothing else other than haying it will remove the thatch build up that robs it of much of its habitat quality.
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A PROPER FIRE SCHEDULE WILL BE TO BURN PART EACH YEAR SO MOST OF IT IS USABLE EACH YEAR. I use a three year schedule. The neat thing about fire is that the prairie plants are already in the seed bank and will appear with just a schedule of burning.The thing about fire is putting in good fire lanes and backups on backups. A FIRE HAS A MIND OF ITS OWN.
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A PROPER FIRE SCHEDULE WILL BE TO BURN PART EACH YEAR SO MOST OF IT IS USABLE EACH YEAR. I use a three year schedule. The neat thing about fire is that the prairie plants are already in the seed bank and will appear with just a schedule of burning.The thing about fire is putting in good fire lanes and backups on backups. A FIRE HAS A MIND OF ITS OWN.
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We do every second or third year and about every third time we burn we light disk after the burn.
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