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I split some of that honey locust last year. Had thorns on the inside. Nasty stuff.

It does make some good firewood. Has a funky smell though, at least that one did.

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I've burned a lot of honey locust as firewood over the years. I've never seen any with thorns inside like that.
 

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Wonder if that has something to do with wind shake. Stress on the trunk creating internal splits .
Randy knows that sound when you tap a "shakey board. I don't know how to describe it but know it when I hear it.
 

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Sounds like a great project! I did 5 acres a couple of years ago and it changed my place with much better deer sightings. 26 acres should really do some good. I love remedy for honey locust. Their is strange pleasure in killing a tree that has produced so many thorn sticks in my hands and even feet. Nasty trees but splits great and burns great.
I heard Craig Harper talking about Arsenal for hack & spray or girdle & spray. Have any of you use that for TSI?
 

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I used Tordon and straight 2-4-d mixed in a squirter bottle for saw girdling. It seems to of done the job.
 

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So are you gents following an MDC prescribed TSI program provided by a forester? Curious as I had one completed a few years back. I didn't sign up for cost share at that time but an interested now. My understory is littered with maples, so thick in places it's dark in the heat of summer.

Are you all felling/hinging those or just ringing? Are you just using a backpack sprayer?

Cool project!
 

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So are you gents following an MDC prescribed TSI program provided by a forester? Curious as I had one completed a few years back. I didn't sign up for cost share at that time but an interested now. My understory is littered with maples, so thick in places it's dark in the heat of summer.

Are you all felling/hinging those or just ringing? Are you just using a backpack sprayer?

Cool project!
I'm following a TSI plan through MDC. Some of the trees get dropped and some get a double girdle with herbicide.

I did find a couple younger maples the other day that received extra tordon to make sure they don't survive.
 

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Before and after with a couple black walnuts growing up by a honey locust.

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Black walnut left and swamp white oak right side. The middle swamp white oak was taken out to make a bit more room for the other two. Granted in 30 years there won't be enough room for the two I left, but I'll make another decision later on what to keep.

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The black walnuts with good form were numerous. I think the honey locust/MFR tangled mess made for a nice crib for the walnuts to have some resistance against browse.

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On your second picture the forked tree on the other side of the stump and the forked tree to the left I would eliminate also if your after timber production.

Did you use tordon or pathway on the stump by the young walnuts? If you did let us know if they live or die.
 

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Sounds like a great project! I did 5 acres a couple of years ago and it changed my place with much better deer sightings. 26 acres should really do some good. I love remedy for honey locust. Their is strange pleasure in killing a tree that has produced so many thorn sticks in my hands and even feet. Nasty trees but splits great and burns great.
I heard Craig Harper talking about Arsenal for hack & spray or girdle & spray. Have any of you use that for TSI?
It is a great product for cut stump, frill or hack/squirt it just may not be as economical as some other choices. It's also a poor choice for foliar applications unless you can tolerate bare ground where overspray would happen to hit as it can have significant residual activity.
I still have one of the old school hypo-hatchets from back in the day and it took imazapyr cartridges. Deadly stuff.
 

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On your second picture the forked tree on the other side of the stump and the forked tree to the left I would eliminate also if your after timber production.

Did you use tordon or pathway on the stump by the young walnuts? If you did let us know if they live or die.
Torson was used. I used tordon the last round I did ~ 10 years ago and all those walnuts survived I cut around.
 
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