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I'll have more progression pics to post as the job comes along. Included will be pics of the species/specific trees I choose to leave and why.

 

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What herbicide are you using?

Tordon

 

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Are you tsi-ing the bean field ?

The deer did the TSI out there for me.

 

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Going to have to pay for some serious carbon credits after today...

The area I started on is predominately honey locust, so there wasn't a lot to save other than some mulberry growing by the honey locust bases.

 

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Thats nice stuff ,,,,,,That stuff have any furniture quality type wood in it ,,any use gunstocks etc

I don't know of anyone that uses honey locust. I've wondered the same thing as it looks like it would make some great looking items.

 

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Have any osage orange ?

I've found one hedge on the entire 160 acres.

 

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I split some of that honey locust last year. Had thorns on the inside. Nasty stuff.

It does make some good firewood. Has a funky smell though, at least that one did.

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I've burned a lot of honey locust as firewood over the years. I've never seen any with thorns inside like that.

 

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So are you gents following an MDC prescribed TSI program provided by a forester? Curious as I had one completed a few years back. I didn't sign up for cost share at that time but an interested now. My understory is littered with maples, so thick in places it's dark in the heat of summer.

Are you all felling/hinging those or just ringing? Are you just using a backpack sprayer?

Cool project!

I'm following a TSI plan through MDC. Some of the trees get dropped and some get a double girdle with herbicide.

I did find a couple younger maples the other day that received extra tordon to make sure they don't survive.

 

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Just curious. Do they mark all the trees they want killed or do you? How does the process work?

They don't mark the trees, at least for my plan they didn't. It's up to me to follow the guidelines in place.

 

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Before and after with a couple black walnuts growing up by a honey locust.

Black walnut left and swamp white oak right side. The middle swamp white oak was taken out to make a bit more room for the other two. Granted in 30 years there won't be enough room for the two I left, but I'll make another decision later on what to keep.

The black walnuts with good form were numerous. I think the honey locust/MFR tangled mess made for a nice crib for the walnuts to have some resistance against browse.

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On your second picture the forked tree on the other side of the stump and the forked tree to the left I would eliminate also if your after timber production.

Did you use tordon or pathway on the stump by the young walnuts? If you did let us know if they live or die.

Torson was used. I used tordon the last round I did ~ 10 years ago and all those walnuts survived I cut around.

 

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This walnut was released ~10 years ago from a couple honey locusts that were crowding it.

 

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I feel like Ralphie when he got his decoder ring in....

 

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This bicolor has plenty of room to grow now.

 

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This bicolor was released ~10 years ago and the trees that were killed are falling apart.

 

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This tool makes it a snap to figure basal area for the government programs that require removal of a certain amount of BA. It measures 5,10,20 and even 40 BAF (basal area factor) to figure BA per acre. I checked this spot and counted 17 trees wider than the 5 spot which is 85 BA. The plan calls for 23 BA average.

I know you can also use one of the coins (can't remember if it's penny, nickel, quarter) to factor basal area. My arms a quite a bit longer than the distance needed to use said coin, so I prefer this tool.

 

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