2014 catdaddy trout forecast

Discussion in 'Trout & Fly Fishing' started by catdaddy, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n
    ....for some that either fish'd with me or read my threads in trout forum....im obviously ate up with trout fish'n.My trout fish'n world is really a small box that encompasses southern momo and northern arky but by sheer luck this small box holds some of the best waters [to me] in the world.....tailwaters.Tailwater rivers created by huge hydroelectric dams for power that release water from impoundments[large lakes] that is to cold for native species [bass/panfish] to proliferate as they once had in undammed,free flowing river....hence the stocking of cold water species...trout.
    Now as most here know...I am unbias'd to techniques used to harvest/kill/C&R any and all game as long as it makes you happy and done legally and am as comfortable snagging/using bait as I am using a down rigger/fly fish'n.So's....
    This year I think would be a good year for the world renowned shad run on taney/bull shoals/norfork tailwaters.An incurrence that stun's/kills shad on impoundments when water reach's 40-49 degrees and shad get flushed with releases from turbines of dams,creating frenzy of over indulgence to trout...be it major run[10+ miles] or minor run[mile or so below dam]The extreme cold winter is setting this up as it doesn't happen every year[major run] because bull shoals/norfork/taney lake's doesn't have optimum conditions[water temp+heavy release+shad die off] for a [major]run every year...although[minor] runs are common.
    It would also be a good year to check out norfork river[maybe the best trout water in Midwest/world] because rumor has it that federal hatchery on norfork is slated to close in 2015 due to federal cuts/pricy needed repair.Although arky has state hatchery,it's doubtful that it be enough to sustain pressure norfork gets ....this can be take'n as a canary in coal mine or speculation....jus say'n.
    As for rest of forecast...trout parks will be trout parks.I would hope bennitts new hatchery would start producing bigger trout by now with their new hatchery....because average size sure went down last couplo.
    ...and small intimate creeks will not be reported because we all know they are to fragile,scenic for internet reports and are best left for hard work'n,eco minded fishers and gawdforbid the mass's.:cheers:
     
  2. seth_turner_04

    seth_turner_04 Active Member

    Dec 18, 2005
    Owensville, MO
    If Taney has a big shad kill, I'm going to do everything I can to get down there. I've never experienced it. Big trout on white jigs is about the only trout fishing I can get excited for anymore.
     

  3. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n
    yep,me neither but ive heard taney has one.Id rather fish taney in the fall than anywhere else.Seen some of the biggest fish ive ever saw swimming around outlets in October and November.Taney and norfork has shad runs but white has always been known for the biggest/best at least in my circle.Norfork is spitting out shad as we speak....ive heard
    Ive been fish'n shad runs for 20-25 years on the white and only hit a major one ....maybe 5 times.Sometimes im a week early or a week late.All it takes to miss it is,they turn the generation off.Always a crap shoot.Some times it'll be in early febuary,sometimes in late march.You really gotta have a lot of things go right at same time,water temps,plenty of water to be released,cold temps in southwest U.S.[where most of power goes as I understand] just to start with.
    You really only gotta experience one to get hooked....to daydream,anticipate another.Ive chased the run for 8-10 miles in a boat,fish turning on whole way.Ive fished all night,went and got breakfast,drove 20 miles downstream,and caught rising shad filled water.We've boated a 20lbs brown,had consecutive 3 cast catch's of 9,7,5 pounders,nights of couplo 7s and a 5....not even to mention break offs or non stop action.Seriously will keep your attention and your blood flow'n.
    ...while most hate the thought of this cold winter...I just cant help myself:rof2: So until than im cleaning box's,organize'n,stock'n and wash'n surely the most dirty trout vest ever worn...3-4 times!
     
  4. bigbass

    bigbass Keep calm and Chive on!

    Nov 17, 2009
    Wentzville
    Shouldn't yo's be out scouting geese?
     
  5. knockemdeadd

    knockemdeadd New Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    Arnold(St Louis)
    No pics it didnt happen :rules:
     
  6. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n

    I actually did that today.I cant figure out what happened to my spots,for years ive had a good day roost spot and a pasture field where they'd feed....aint seen a goose in either one in two years.Farmer got ill and now his son does cattle on farms....only thing different.Heard a bunch down on mac when ML hunt'n,my subdivision lakes got couplo hundy....if I get into some i'll let you know.:shrug:
     
  7. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n
    so....I see yo must have a good fowl report yo look'n to unload.....in me trout thread...dontcha?Just so yo know...if no shad were used,a white river jon used,at least a pair of trout waders worn...im push'n the button!:rules:
     
  8. Modeerhunter

    Modeerhunter New Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Gasconade County
    Do you have a panfish forecast for ice fishing this winter? I could use one.
     
  9. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n
    NO!!!!:mad2:.....not enough time,not cleaning those box's,t'aint oil'n those reels up...yet....but feel free to fish my sub-division lake anytime now yo in neighborhood....plus my blower motor start'n to act sluggish.:rof2::rof2::rof2:
     
  10. Modeerhunter

    Modeerhunter New Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Gasconade County
    The last time I went ice fishing here in Mo, I had a blast. Caught a bunch of fish and enjoyed every minute of it. Hope I can do it again come Tuesday or Wednesday.
     
  11. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n
    probably be good on my lake,seems its earliest good fish'n lake ive ever fish'd.i catch more fish on it in January,febuary,march than all other months combined....don't know whats it's story?Never have iced fish'd it though....seriously tim try it if you ever want your welcome to anytime...and if you get 3 days of 50-60 degree days almost always can catch some nice bass,bull blugills with occasional crappie
     
  12. Modeerhunter

    Modeerhunter New Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Gasconade County
    I'm seriously planning on going early next week, only hope the ice is right. Last time was a blast.
     
  13. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n
    take kedro,a double barrel,and box o zombie loads....he'll have yo couplo holes in no time and plenty o corn....yo welcome.:D
     
  14. Modeerhunter

    Modeerhunter New Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Gasconade County
    Holes are no problem, safe ice is. KED is no help. Well, maybe if he hauls my gear. :D
     
  15. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n
    you guys can borrow my jet sled.Good luck:D
     
  16. Modeerhunter

    Modeerhunter New Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Gasconade County
    What if you need it?
     
  17. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n
    lakes are frozen,i gots goat hauler wit wheels for me dekes....believe me brudder,a day wit kedro.....yo's will need to be drug out on sumpin!:D
     
  18. HarvDog

    HarvDog Bro Staff

    Mar 14, 2010
    East Side
    U2U me when/if the shad kill is on down south!! Love to fly some white jigs on the White

    Sad deal about NorFork Hatchery, A lot of childhood mories fishing Dry Run and daydreaming as I walked through the hatchery:)
     
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2014
  19. catdaddy

    catdaddy blu bogart

    Dec 30, 2007
    t'aint say'n

    chrome domes!:scared:....only jig hardy enough for big browns at night....all others get staight'nd out on strike!:scared:
     
  20. Gamegetter

    Gamegetter Well-Known Member

    Jan 21, 2004
    Good info troutdaddy. :eek:: :D